Is a High IQ at a Young Age a Good Thing?

[12345]

Hey...i am 10 years old and have an IQ of 153.

Is that good or bad for my age? please tell me.

what are your IQs?

 

[Dooga Blackrazor]

What IQ test did you take? Considering your age having an IQ of 153 is exceptional. However, most Internet tests are extremely inaccurate and IQ itself is often considered a poor measurement of Intelligence.

I'm typically not an IQ test kind of person but I excel in academics. However judging from my own personal analysis and other characteristics I'd guess my adult IQ would be somewhere above 120 and below 145. A wide range, which could be completely inaccurate. It's probably a good guess considering the hereditary of IQ. IQ is 80% genetic and 20% environment. Since my Mother has a profession considered to usually have an IQ of 120+ and my father a 130+, it can be assumed that my IQ is somewhere above or in that range. I probably had somewhat of an increase based on things I was exposed to. Negative things, but situations that required coping and trained my mind at a rate faster than it should've had to adapt at.

IQ is determined as Mental Age multiplied by 100 divided Chronological age. So according to your IQ you have the Intelligence of someone who is 15 years old. So your ahead of your age category.

Most IQ tests raise your score if your younger. This raise in score is usually eliminated by the age of 16. Due to some mental abilities often increasing after the age of 16, it's not typically all that accurate either.

Basically, your low age is giving you a higher IQ. Your IQ could raise or lower when your older because of that. So, if someone on these forums posts with an IQ of 140 your not necessarily more or less intelligent than them.

 

[wasteofo2]

I've taken at least 10 internet IQ tests, most claiming to be real, scientifically proven etc. I've gotten between 90 and 210

 

[BlackVision]

Hey...i am 10 years old and have an IQ of 153.

Is that good or bad for my age? please tell me.

what are your IQs?

Age is factored into IQ tests. And child IQ tests have higher standard deviations than adult IQ tests. Meaning if you're 10 and you scored 153, as an adult, you will score lower than that. Also whether or not it's a good score is fully dependent on what IQ test it is. Some tests have a standard deviation of 16. Others are 15 and some are 24. So all that has to be taken into consideration.

 

[BlackVision]

Also asking people on a message board what their IQ is, is like asking guys what their penis size is. Many will overexaggerate and not too many will be truthful.

 

[BoulderHead]

Also asking people on a message board what their IQ is, is like asking guys what their penis size is. Many will overexaggerate and not too many will be truthful.

Oh, those boyz, they'll just lie about damn near anything! lol

 

[12345]

Age is factored into IQ tests. And child IQ tests have higher standard deviations than adult IQ tests. Meaning if you're 10 and you scored 153, as an adult, you will score lower than that. Also whether or not it's a good score is fully dependent on what IQ test it is. Some tests have a standard deviation of 16. Others are 15 and some are 24. So all that has to be taken into consideration.

i actually took a test for adults developed by PHDs.

3 years ago my IQ was 127. I didn't not take it on the internet, but I had to take it ( i think a professer tested me) in my elementary school so i could join Enrichment ( a program for children).

 

[BlackVision]

i actually took a test for adults developed by PHDs.

3 years ago my IQ was 127. I didn't not take it on the internet, but I had to take it ( i think a professer tested me) in my elementary school so i could join Enrichment ( a program for children).

Unless you took an online IQ test, your age was factored in. Psychologists will always factor in your age. If you can find out the name of the test that would be helpful. But without knowing what test it is and without knowing the standard deviation of the test, it does not give much to work on.

By the large IQ gap between your 2 scores. I would guess that either one had a much larger standard deviation or that one of the tests were inaccurate.

 

[loseyourname]

I took an IQ test for the GATE program at my school at age 12 (I was representing the school on a game show) and scored a 176. I took one a couple of years ago (I'm 23 now) just for fun, administered by my girlfriend's mother, who is a psychologist, and scored a 162. As everyone else here has pointed out, your score goes down with age.

By the way, I have no idea what either test was named and my penis is 14 inches. Besides, it's hard to see how this measures intelligence in any meaningful way. I'm great at learning math and solving logic puzzles, as well as converting 2-dimensional pictures into 3-dimensional mental images (I'm also a wonderful fiction writer and portrait artist), but I still can't understand a woman's emotions or the convictions of a religious person. These tests don't even pretend to measure interpersonal intelligence, which I would say is a fairly major oversight.

 

[kuengb]

I'm 21. And I look like Marlon Brando.

 

[Njorl]

I'm 21. And I look like Marlon Brando.

Do you look like he did when he was 21 or like he does now? There is a big, very big, difference.

Njorl

 

[kuengb]

Do you look like he did when he was 21 or like he does now? There is a big, very big, difference.

Hard to say...what I can tell you is that my Brando Quotient BQ is 124. Here's a picture of my famous Brando smile:

I only hope this isn't dangerous to me.

 

[Gelsamel Epsilon]

i've taken a lot and i got around about 158 for each of them, I'm 15 :-/

 

[loseyourname]

Oh, I also speak 17 languages and I've appeared in 13 feature films. And I was wrong about my penis size. I measured it again and it's actually 15 inches.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Do you look like he did when he was 21 or like he does now? There is a big, very big, difference.

Heheheheh. Every morning since about the age of forty, Brando has caught sight of himself in the bathroom mirror, and whispered "The horror! The horror!.

I took one official I.Q. test when I was in grade school. I couldn't wait to get the results and be proven a genius. The woman told me some number or other, and I asked what it meant."Don't worry", she said, "It's average."
The horror! The horror!

 

[Math Is Hard]

My IQ is 34 Double-D.

 

[Polly]

Very...erh...erh... respectable .

 

[franznietzsche]

My IQ is 34 Double-D.

*face...brick...contact...*

Last time i jump into these threads to try and dispell IQ misconceptions...

Very nice though.

 

[zoobyshoe]

My IQ is 34 Double-D.

Where does that place you compared to say, Marilyn vos Savant, Marilyn Monroe, and Marilyn Chambers?

 

[franznietzsche]

The horror! The horror!

I hate that book. I had to do my IB English oral commentary on it. Would have much preferred Hamlet.

 

[Math Is Hard]

Where does that place you compared to say, Marilyn vos Savant, Marilyn Monroe, and Marilyn Chambers?

uhh.. somewhere between a (nice) rack and a head-case?

say..one thing I'm curious about...how do human IQ tests and zoobian IQ tests differ?

 

[zoobyshoe]

say..one thing I'm curious about...how do human IQ tests and zoobian IQ tests differ?

Zoobies are naturally immune to all the strains of the I.Q. bacterium. We have no need to be tested for it.

 

[selfAdjoint]

Zoobies are naturally immune to all the strains of the I.Q. bacterium. We have no need to be tested for it.

Yes, but they might pick up some on their SHOES if they stepped in it.

 

[Janitor]

Also, I believe I heard that Zoobian I.Q. tests must be taken topless.

 

[Math Is Hard]

I came across this unfortunate story about an overzealous expectant mom who wanted a high-IQ baby:

http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=20456

World News > Mother damages foetus with loud educational tapes

Singapore, June 1 (ANI):

An expectant mother paid the price for her over-enthusiasm leading to her child being born with hearing problems.

According to The Straits Times, Luo, a chinese women wanted a 'gifted' child, which prompted her to play loud educational tapes against her abdomen during pregnancy.

A month after the child's birth, doctors found it to be born with nerve damage. The doctors are hopeful that the boy's sense of hearing would recover as the damage was discovered early.

"Pre-natal education can certainly help speed up a child's growth, but mothers should take care not to press the tape recorder against their abdomen, a child's hearing could be affected if he is subjected to extreme noise over a long period of time at the foetal stage," said Dr Ye Lingfeng, of the Wuhan University's Zhongnan Hospital.

 

[zoobyshoe]

That doctor is quoted as saying "prenatal" education can actually work. I find that difficult to swallow. It's not the same thing as playing Mozart for the fetus. It is not in any position to understand educational tapes.

There is another I.Q. thread up just now, and Evo quoted a story about a guy with an incredible I.Q. He was pushed from birth by his parents. I wonder if that is what's behind most of the people with very high I.Q.s?

 

[selfAdjoint]

I don't think you can convert any baby into a super IQ by pushing, or we would have a lot more geniuses than we do. Just the other day in a bookstore I saw a text on "spatial perceiving" kids who were said to be destined for great smarts. While most of the stuff in the book was how to deal with one of these if you get one, there was just under the surface the offer that if you did the right tricks with your baby you could produce a genius.

Along with the the invisible brain damage that produces active little boys and which can be controlled with drugs, the way to ensure a superbaby is a neverending story in US life.

 

[robert Ihnot]

Well, I don't know about pushing a would-be genius, BUT when you look at Beetoven, what can you say? Remember John Stewart Mills, and Bertrand Russell grew up in their father's library and never went to school before College. Look at Asimov, who had to "mind the store," until he went to college. Then, we have John von Neumann, professor at the Institute of Advanced Studies...why in his case, his family just got him tutors and he didn't have to go to regular school either.

 

[Evo]

Heheheheh. Every morning since about the age of forty, Brando has caught sight of himself in the bathroom mirror, and whispered "The horror! The horror!.

I took one official I.Q. test when I was in grade school. I couldn't wait to get the results and be proven a genius. The woman told me some number or other, and I asked what it meant."Don't worry", she said, "It's average."
The horror! The horror!

Zoob, average IQ? I don't think so.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Zoob, average IQ? I don't think so.

Nope, average. That's a 100% true story. I was crushed.

 

[Evo]

Nope, average. That's a 100% true story. I was crushed.

Just goes to prove how wrong these tests can be. You're one of the most knowledgeable people I know.

 

[Gelsamel Epsilon]

This is the internet, everyone is knowledgeable with a search engine

 

[Math Is Hard]

I agree, Evo. Zooby is not only knowledgeable, but he is also BOTH very analytical and creative. He's also pretty darn funny.
And yes, anyone can use a search engine to gather data, but that doesn't mean s/he will be able to use it for anything meaningful.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I agree, Evo. Zooby is not only knowledgeable, but he is also BOTH very analytical and creative. He's also pretty darn funny.

Thanks, Math! And Evo! It takes one to know one.

Anyway, the point of my story was just to relate the amusing variation of being damned with faint praise: "Oh, don't worry. It's average."

 

[Dagenais]

I've taken at least 10 internet IQ tests, most claiming to be real, scientifically proven etc. I've gotten between 90 and 210

Mine have ranged from 93 to 164.

They were all "PhD Certified" or scientifically proven.

I guess it doesn't matter as long as I have enough intelligence to live my life comfortably.

We never had IQ tests at my schools. We've had reading tests, but that's about it.

 

[the number 42]

Apparently you can boost your IQ simply by taking vitamins (7.6 points) and practicing the tests 5 times (10 points). I've been told that if you factor in the speed of completing the test, this makes a big difference because any free-range banana can get a high score, given a few weeks.

Are IQ tests routinely timed, and is time a factor in the final calculation?

 

[Tom McCurdy]

lol

Oh, those boyz, they'll just lie about damn near anything! lol

Oh to someone interested in physics they would lie about there IQ rasing it before they would lie about their penis size lol

 

[Dooga Blackrazor]

Apparently you can boost your IQ simply by taking vitamins (7.6 points) and practicing the tests 5 times (10 points). I've been told that if you factor in the speed of completing the test, this makes a big difference because any free-range banana can get a high score, given a few weeks.

Are IQ tests routinely timed, and is time a factor in the final calculation?

Time is factored into some tests and not others. I disagree with the speed factor myself. IQ tests usually have generalized questions that everyone can answer in a certain time. The hard questions are usually in low amount. More intelligent individuals may spend more time looking over their answers or evaluating possible outcomes. Some people, like myself, hate to be bested by a question. If I'm stumped I'll let the clock go usually until I figure out the answer. Alot of factors can effect speed when certain individuals look at a question. After doing a project on IQ, I don't find it to be an accurate measurement of intelligence. I think it can roughly tell if someone is very exceptional, or very below average. Besides that I don't think it's fair for people to use it to deem another more intelligent. That's my opinion of course.

 

[JohnDubYa]

The question is pointless because few actually know their IQ. Those that do are almost never honest about it. :)

 

[hitssquad]

Is IQ a good measure of g

After doing a project on IQ, I don't find it to be an accurate measurement of intelligence. I think it can roughly tell if someone is very exceptional, or very below average.

• when the correlations among a large number of learning tasks are factor analyzed, a general factor common to all of the learning tasks is revealed. This common factor could be called "general learning ability."
  
  The important point is that this general learning ability factor is highly correlated with the g factor extracted from psychometric tests, and seems to be essentially nothing other than g. When a number of learning tasks and a number of psychometric tests of mental abilities are all entered into the same correlation matrix and factor analyzed, they are found to share a large common factor which is indistinguishable from psychometric g. In fact, there is no general learning factor (that is, a factor common to all learning tasks) that is independent of psychometric g. The general factor of each domain--learning and psychometric abilities--is essentially one and the same g.
  
  Certain kinds of learning tasks, of course, are more g loaded than others. Concept learning and the acquisition of learning sets (i.e., generalized learning-to-learn), for example, are more g loaded than rote learning, trial-and-error learning, and perceptual-motor skills learning. Attempts to devise tests of "learning potential" in which the subject is first tested on some task (or set of tasks), then given some standard instruction, coaching, or practice on the same or a similar task, and then retested to obtain a measure of the gain in task performance resulting from the interpolated coaching have proved to be a poor substitute for ordinary IQ tests. Standard IQ has higher validity for predicting scholastic achievement. [8] The existing tests of "learning potential," when used in conjunction with an IQ test, add virtually nothing to the predictive validity of the IQ when it is used alone, probably because the chief active ingredient in predictive validity is g, and tests of learning potential have not proved to be as good measures of g as conventional IQ tests.

Arthur Jensen. The g Factor. p276.

• The g Loading of IQ Tests. Here it is important to distinguish between two things: (1) the proportion of the total variance attributable to g when we factor analyze the set of various subtests that compose the IQ test, and (2) the g loading of the IQ itself (derived from the total of the standardized scores on all of the subtests) when the IQ is factor-analyzed among a large collection of diverse cognitive tests.
  
  1. Probably the most typical example is the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children (WISC) and for Adults (WAIS). The Wechsler battery consists of twelve subtests (Vocabulary, Similarities, Information, Comprehension, Arithmetic, Digit Span, Digit Symbol, Picture Completion, Block Design, Picture Arrangement, Object Assembly and Mazes). When this battery is factor analyzed in various age groups of the standardization population, the percentage of the total variance in all the subtests accounted for by g averages about 30 percent in a hierarchical analysis and about 37 percent when g is represented by the first principal factor. The average percentage of variance accounted for by each of the three group factors in a hierarchical analysis is: Verbal 6 percent, Performance (largely spatial ability) 6 percent, and Memory 4 percent. Some 40 percent of the total variance is specific to each subtest, and about 10 percent is measurement error (unreliability). The g factor scores obtained from the whole Wechsler battery are correlated more than .95 with the tests' total score (called Full Scale IQ). With such a high correlation between the factor scores and the IQ scores, it is pointless to calculate factor scores. 17

Arthur Jensen. The g Factor. p90.

• The correlations between various IQ tests average about +.77. The square root of this correlation (\sqrt{.77} = .88) is an estimate of the average g loading of IQ tests, since the correlation between two tests is the product of their factor loadings. This value (.88) is an overestimate of the average g loading if it is assumed that various pairs of tests also have certain group factors in common (for example, two purely verbal IQ tests). If we look at just those tests that appear to have no group factors in common (e.g., the Raven and the Peabody Picture Vocabulary), the average correlation between them is +.69, which estimates an average g loading of \sqrt{.69} = .83. It would seem safe to conclude that the average g loading of IQ as measured by various standard IQ tests is in the +.80s.

Arthur Jensen. The g Factor. p91.

 

[The_Professional]

One character trait I notice among geniuses is their steel trap memory. Von Neumann can memorize a column of phone numbers, divide two 8-digit numbers in his head. Bobby Fischer remembers every movement on every game he's played. Billy Sidis could learn a new language in a day and can recall everything he's ever read.

 

[TenNen]

Can you do the same ? to be a genius ?
I have heard from one of my people that he talked as if he knew more than anyone else does in the world...(Rolleyes)

 

[TenNen]

Just a note though, and sorry if that is going to be something un-nice to listen...

 

[The_Professional]

I have heard from one of my people that he talked as if he knew more than anyone else does in the world...(Rolleyes)

I have no idea what you just said. You're not making any sense. What are you referring to?

 

[TenNen]

I am referring to a genius from NewYork as he once mentioned. (smile)
Hello, NewYorker!

 

[zoobyshoe]

One character trait I notice among geniuses is their steel trap memory.

I don't think you can safely correlate steel-trap memory with genius, though, since it is also demonstrated by autistic savants in their field of interest.

The autistic savant I knew in high school had memorized the call letters of every radio station in the US east of the Mississippi and the town in which the station was located.
People tested him on this all the time out of curiosity, and no one seemed to be able to trip him up. You could give him the call letters and he could name the location, or you could name a location and he could give you the call letters. Naming larger towns and cities, of course, resulted in a larger list of call letters. He knew both AM and FM, of course.

Academically, he was a C student with the occasional B. He was incapable, really, of any kind of meaningful analysis of a problem or situation.

 

[Brennen]

im 16, and the last IQ test i did i got 187 (tested as adult). i also have a really good memory. it's not photographic but i can create vivid memories in my head of things from a long long time ago. for example, i remember once being bout 2-3 yrs old and chucking a hissy fit. and if i close my eyes and think about it, i was wearing my dark red with black collar mickey mouse jumper, walking from the lounge room into the kitchen (with ugly 70's browny orange tiles), past our 6 seater dining table, and picking up my tiny orange drink bottle with the faded sticker and throwing it at my brother. i remember this so extremely vividly, as with many other memories. and i can memorize reasonably long series of numbers and words etc.

im not the most brilliant mind you'll ever meet though. i mean, I'm smart, and i constantly get high distinctions (usually top .5%) in our nation wide tests (australia) and such, but like... my last report card read A A B B B C (the C was due to an attack of a heart condition during the exam, was on a B) which wasnt as good as some of my friends.

how is it that my IQ can be higher than freakishly smart people who can learn languages, and divide 8 digit numbers in their head etc etc? wouldn't they be "smarter" than me?

 

[recon]

Brennen, by IQ test, do you mean that you were tested by a certified psychologist? Also what kind of IQ test was it? There are many types of IQ tests, and on some tests 187 wouldn't be considered as an astronomically high IQ although it would still be pretty high. My IQ does not come near yours, however I've scored in the top 0.5% too. Still, school tests should not be used to determine intelligence. It IS a good guide, but in some cases is unreliable.

 

[Brennen]

school psych, not sure about accuracy of test. not really sure on details. I am not overly confident about my own intelligence anyway, I've got enough to breeze through high school without exerting any effort, and that's plenty for me.

 

[selfAdjoint]

How do you do on story problems in math?