When should the drag coefficient of a rocket peak?

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The discussion centers around the behavior of the drag coefficient of a rocket during transonic and supersonic flight, specifically addressing the question of why the drag coefficient peaks at slightly above Mach 1 rather than exactly at Mach 1. The scope includes theoretical considerations and technical explanations related to fluid dynamics and compressibility effects in aerodynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the drag coefficient peaks at Mach 1 due to an abrupt increase in pressure when breaking the sound barrier.
  • Others argue that the drag coefficient actually peaks at slightly above Mach 1, citing the influence of wave drag and the critical Mach number, which varies based on the shape of the body.
  • One participant clarifies that subsonic flow can still be compressible and that the drag-divergence Mach number is distinct from the critical Mach number, which marks the onset of significant drag increases.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of sources referenced by the original poster, particularly regarding the lack of citation and the ambiguity of the plotted figures.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of wave drag and its dependence on the flow being supersonic, with some participants emphasizing the transition in flow behavior as the Mach number exceeds 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between Mach number and drag coefficient, with no consensus reached on the exact point at which the drag coefficient peaks. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the drag coefficient behavior in relation to Mach 1.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about compressibility and the definitions of critical and drag-divergence Mach numbers. The lack of clarity in the referenced figures and their applicability to specific shapes is also noted.

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Hi,

When considering the drag coefficient of a rocket in transonic/supersonic flight, I always expected the drag coefficient to peak at exactly Mach 1 due to the abrupt increase in pressure that occurs when breaking the sound barrier. However, I have been looking at several websites and articles that predict the drag coefficient of a rocket to peak at slightly above Mach 1 (say Mach 1.2). I.e. Figure 4 on this website:

http://what-when-how.com/space-science-and-technology/rocket-propulsion-theory/

Could anyone explain why the drag coefficient peaks at slightly above Mach 1 instead of exactly Mach 1?

Thanks!

/krihamm
 
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I think @boneh3ad 's expertise could answer this question ...
 
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Here'e a picture of a plane flying through the air and increasing its speed. courtesy of Nasa.
https://history.nasa.gov/SP-367/fig87.jpg
https://history.nasa.gov/SP-367/chapt5.htm
as it transitions form subsonic to supersonic speeds, called the transonic range.
One can see that supersonic flow of the fluid ( air ) occurs over the body not just at Mach 1 for the free stream flow, but at some speed lower.
Subsonic flow is characterized as the fluid being treated as incompressible and the equations in that region work particularly fine.
At around say 0.8 of the free stream Mach number, called the drag-divergence Mach number, the local Mach number at certain places over the wing becomes supersonic, as the air has to speed up over the body, and we see the beginnings of shock waves. and increased drag coefficient.
This is due to the fact of the compressibility of the air, and called wave drag.

The formation of the bow shock and the implications for the drag coefficient is probably what the question details as the object ( plane ) increase its speed beyond that of free stream Mach 1.
that's as far as I get.
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There seems to be a lot of incorrect statements in the post by @256bits, even if the general idea is correct. I feel I ought to clarify a few things.

256bits said:
Subsonic flow is characterized as the fluid being treated as incompressible and the equations in that region work particularly fine.

This is inaccurate. Subsonic flow is characterized by a Mach number less than 1 It says absolutely nothing about whether the flow is compressible or not. In order to treat a flow of gas as incompressible, the Mach number needs to be less than about 0.3, so there is a sizable Mach number range that is subsonic but compressible.

256bits said:
At around say 0.8 of the free stream Mach number, called the drag-divergence Mach number, the local Mach number at certain places over the wing becomes supersonic, as the air has to speed up over the body, and we see the beginnings of shock waves. and increased drag coefficient.

The Mach number at which the flow becomes locally sonic (and beyond which, supersonic) over an airfoil is called the critical Mach number. There is immediately a small drag increase because you now have to contend with wave drag, but the shocks that form are still so incredibly weak that they don't contribute much. The drag-divergence Mach number is close to but slightly larger than the critical Mach number and represents when the drag on the airfoil makes a sharp rise, generally corresponding to the formation of stronger shocks as that local supersonic region gets greater and greater than Mach 1. The critical Mach number and drag-divergence Mach number are not the same thing. Also, the critical Mach number varies based on the shape of the body, with some airfoils becoming critical around Mach 0.6 and others pushing it nearly to Mach 0.9.

256bits said:
This is due to the fact of the compressibility of the air, and called wave drag.

In some sense, I suppose that yes, wave drag is a result of the compressibility of air. In reality, though, it is more specifically due to flows that are supersonic. You will not see any wave drag in a flow that is, say, Mach 0.999, even though it is highly compressible, because it is still subsonic. There are fundamental changes that occur in flow fields when the Mach number increases beyond 1. Specifically, the behavior becomes more wave-like (mathematically, the solutions transition from elliptic to hyperbolic). It is this change that gives rise to wave drag.

krihamm said:
I always expected the drag coefficient to peak at exactly Mach 1 due to the abrupt increase in pressure that occurs when breaking the sound barrier.

What large pressure increase are you referencing here?

krihamm said:
Could anyone explain why the drag coefficient peaks at slightly above Mach 1 instead of exactly Mach 1?

Your link does not cite its sources. The figures (and very possibly the equations) are lifted from some other site without attribution. It is difficult to say with certainty what they are even plotting. They say drag coefficient versus Mach number and angle of attack, but over what shape? I am not sure I want to speculate without knowing what shape was plotted there.
 
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boneh3ad said:
I feel I ought to clarify a few things.
Well noted. And informative.

At least the OP has received a few responses, although he/she hasn't returned.
 
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256bits said:
Well noted. And informative.

At least the OP has received a few responses, although he/she hasn't returned.

My original response came off as more combative than I intended. Hopefully I managed to fix it.
 
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