Medical Where Can I Find Dielectric Constants of Neurons at Optical Frequencies?

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The discussion centers on the search for dielectric constants of neurons and nerve fibers at frequencies between 1e12 and 1e14 Hz, which includes optical and RF spectrum ranges. The original poster notes that existing data primarily covers frequencies only up to 1e11 Hz and highlights the complexity of biological tissues, suggesting they may not have a constant dielectric value but rather a skin-depth function and dispersion relation. Several resources are shared, including a journal article that provides a general equation for dielectric properties and a PDF that discusses applications of this equation, particularly in modeling dendritic processes with cantorian fractals. The conversation emphasizes the need for theoretical work in the absence of experimental data and acknowledges the challenges of effectively searching for relevant information online.
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Hello! First time poster. I hope this is not a wrong sub-forum for this kind of question.

Can anyone tell me where can I find values for dielectric constants of neurons and nerve fibers for frequencies in the range of 1e12 - 1e14 Hz (optical and RF part of the spectrum)?

I have found data only up to 1e11 Hz (Gabriel 1996 - The dielectric properties of biological tissues: III), and most of the other works cover frequencies up to GHz.
 
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I don't think biological tissues really have a "constant". They probably have a skin-depth function and a dispersion relation. After a little internet research:

Here's a journal article that outlines a general equation

http://pre.aps.org/abstract/PRE/v60/i4/p4677_1

here's a PDF referencing the above journal and breaking down the equation a little bit and giving some simple applications (cantorian fractals may be a way to model dendritic processes).

http://permittivity.org/tutorial%20pdf/bds-tut-09-raicu.pdf

I'm not sure this is really a simple question. If there's no experimental data, someone has to do the theoretical work based on what's been observed.

Here's a note on the state of terahertz exposure for biological tissues in general:

http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/761/
 
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You are right, it would rather be a function, my mistake.

Thank you for the links, they look very promissing! It would seem that I have yet to learn about proper net searching. :-)
 
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