Where Did All the Matter in the Universe Come From?

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The discussion centers around the origins of matter in the universe as explained by the Big Bang model. Participants explore questions regarding the creation of matter, the nature of the Big Bang, and the implications of energy conservation in an expanding universe. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications related to cosmology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how the Big Bang model accounts for the creation of matter, questioning whether all subatomic particles were created at a single point in time.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the Big Bang represents a point in time rather than a point in space, arguing against the notion of an explosion from a specific location.
  • There is a repeated assertion that the universe's expansion is not from a spatial point, but rather a temporal event.
  • A later reply suggests that energy is not conserved in the traditional sense within an expanding universe, referencing General Relativity's more complex conservation laws.
  • One participant provides a brief explanation of how energy in the early universe grew rapidly and was converted into matter and radiation as the universe cooled.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the distinction between a point in time and a point in space regarding the Big Bang, but there remains uncertainty and confusion about the implications of this distinction and the nature of matter creation. Multiple competing views and interpretations exist regarding the specifics of energy conservation and matter formation.

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Some limitations in understanding are noted, particularly regarding the complexities of energy conservation in cosmology and the definitions of energy used in the discussion. The conversation reflects a range of interpretations and assumptions that are not fully resolved.

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Hello.
I mean no challenge against current existing theories.
I wanted to ask, how does the Big Bang model explain the creation of all the existing matter in the Universe? I read that the BB created matter but how how could matter be created? I think it should have been either infinitely concentrated in a point, or be just born from something. If it was infinitely concentrated in a point, then where did all that matter come from? It is said that the BB was the beginning of time, so...
I don't understand this.
Were all the subatomic particles that we know of in the Standard Model created at one single point in time, the BB? How did all of them come in existence? How did they form?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
I have seen some threads on similar discussions, but to be honest I did not understand much from them...
Can anyone please help me with my misunderstanding?
Thank you for taking time to consider all these questions!:smile:

P.S. This post is full of questions, but this is a very interesting topic and I am just a middle schooler...:)
 
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I recommend Stephen Weinberg's "The First Three Minutes". It's fairly short and an easy read.

You need to let go of this "everything was at a point" thing. It was a point in TIME, not a point in space. The big bang happened everywhere, not at a point in space. If it had happened at a point in space, it would have been, as pop-sci presentations would have you believe, an "explosion" and there would be a center. There is not. I recommend the link in my signature.
 
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@phinds but would the universe have to be expanding from a point, the point of the BB?
Thank you for the response.
 
ISamson said:
@phinds but would the universe have to be expanding from a point, the point of the BB?
Thank you for the response.
Yes, a point in TIME, not a point in space.
 
phinds said:
It was a point in TIME, not a point in space.
That's not very clear to novices, since they have been instructed that space and time are indubitably woven into the fabric of... spacetime.

Anyway this must be the millionth time this topic has been raised on here, and will no doubt be locked like all the others. Kudos I suppose to the mods for rehashing the same old 'answers', and not exploding in a veritable fireball of incandescent frustration.
 
ISamson said:
I wanted to ask, how does the Big Bang model explain the creation of all the existing matter in the Universe? I read that the BB created matter but how how could matter be created?
If you want a full description, Phinds' suggestion is a good one. Here's a super short version, in two points:

1. Energy is not conserved in an expanding universe. This is highly counter-intuitive. But it is what General Relativity tells us. General Relativity follows a more complicated conservation law that includes energy, momentum, pressure, and twisting forces. The conservation of this more complicated structure forces energy to change over time following very precise rules based upon the interaction between energy and these other properties (momentum, pressure, twisting forces).
2. Using a particular definition of energy*, in the most common model (cosmic inflation) extremely early universe energy grew extremely rapidly. Then that energy was converted to matter and radiation, and the energy dropped over time very early-on as the universe cooled. But lots of matter that came from that initial energy production remained.

* The particular definition in this case is the "total energy in a finite co-moving volume". It increases at an exceedingly rapid pace during inflation. It decreases when radiation is the dominant energy density.
 
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