Where Did I Go Wrong in This Conservation of Energy Problem?

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The discussion revolves around solving a conservation of energy problem involving an elastic string and a mass. The initial conditions include a 3.0m string that can stretch to 4.0m under a 10.0kg weight, with a 15.0kg mass attached at the midpoint. The key issue is determining the velocity of the mass after it descends 1.5m, with calculations indicating a discrepancy between the calculated velocity (2.86 m/s) and the expected answer (3.13 m/s). Participants emphasize the importance of considering gravitational potential energy and the initial stretch of the string in energy calculations. The discussion highlights the need to accurately account for all forms of energy in the system to resolve the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement


An elastic string of natural length 3.0m can be stretched to a length 4.0m by a weight of mass 10.0kg. Its two extremities are fixed to two points A, B in the same horizontal line at a distance of 4.0m apart, and a mass of 15.0kg is attached to the mid-point. If this mass is released from rest while the string is horizontal, find the velocity of the mass when it has descended a distance of 1.5m


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The Attempt at a Solution


F = kx
10g = k(1)
k = 10g

15g = 10gx
x = 1.5m (Maximum stretched length of the string)

When the mass has fallen a distance of 1.5m, the string is stretched to the length 2(1.52+22)1/2= 5

Thus, stretched length of the string = 1m

0.5(10g)(1.5)2=0.5(10g)(1)2+0.5(15)(v2)
v = 2.86m/s

However, the answer is 3.13m/s. Where did I go wrong?
 
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try to do it by energy consideration. the natural length is 3m and it has been tied between points 4m distant. so the string is already stretched. the energy stored in the string is 1/2 kx2. the mass is initailly 1.5m higher than now(i,e, when it has fallen 1.5m). so the initial energy of the system is 1/2kx2 + mgh. the final energy is 1/2ky2 + 1/2mv2, where y is the current ellongation of the string and v is to be determined. find y by using pythagorian theorem using h and the distance between tied end and u will have only one unknown, in v, to be solved out.
 
gaobo9109 said:
When the mass has fallen a distance of 1.5m, the string is stretched to the length 2(1.52+22)1/2= 5
Good.

Thus, stretched length of the string = 1m
What's the unstretched length of the string? In its initial position, how much is it stretched? In its final position?

Don't neglect gravitational PE when analyzing energy.
 
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