Where does this equation come from?

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In summary, the conversation discusses an equation for the volumetric flow rate of air through a channel and where it comes from. The equation is derived from the cylindrical Navier-Stokes equations and simplifies to Q = - pi*d^4/(128*viscosity)* dp/dx. The conversation also touches on the no slip condition and the use of the velocity profile equation to calculate the volumetric flow rate. The conversation ends by noting that the negative sign in the equation reflects the direction of flow.
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Where does this equation come from??

Hi,

In a textbook I found an equation for the volumetric flow rate of air through a channel (tube). I can't find from where the equation is coming, someone an idea?

The equation which I mean is: Q = - pi*d^4/(128*viscosity)* dp/dx

I know that Q = A*v = pi*d^2/4 *v

Also from the simplified equation of motion 'v' can be calculated as:

dp/dx = viscosity * ddv/ddy (dd = second derivative)

from this equation v = ?? if I fill v in, in Q = pi*d^2/4 *v will this give Q = - pi*d^4/(128*viscosity)* dp/dx ??
 
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Well, the equation you give is for Poiseuille flow in a pipe. In other words, you need to be using the cylindrical Navier-Stokes equations. These simplify to:
[tex]\frac{dP}{dz} = \mu \frac{1}{r} \frac{d}{dr} \left( r \frac{d u_z}{dr} \right)[/tex]
This is easily integrable.
[tex]\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \int r \; dr = r \frac{d u_z}{dr}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \left( \frac{r^2}{2} + C_1 \right) = r \frac{d u_z}{dr}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \int \left( \frac{r}{2} + \frac{C_1}{r} \right) = u_z[/tex]
[tex] u_z(r) = \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \left( \frac{r^2}{4} + C_1 \ln r + C_2 \right)[/tex]

So, we know that [itex]C_1=0[/itex] because at [itex]r=0[/itex], the velocity has to be finite, so the [itex] \ln r[/itex] term has to go away, leaving us with:

[tex] u_z(r) = \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \left( \frac{r^2}{4} + C_2 \right)[/tex]

Now, according to the no slip condition ([itex]u_z(R) = 0[/itex]), we have:
[tex] u_z(R) = 0 = \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \left( \frac{R^2}{4} + C_2 \right)[/tex]
So,
[tex]C_2 = -\frac{R^2}{4}[/tex]
And our final equation for the velocity profile is:
[tex] u_z(r) = \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \frac{r^2 - R^2}{4}[/tex]

To get volumetric flow, you have to use the equation:
[tex]Q = \int \int V(r, \theta) dA[/tex]

We just showed that the velocity is only a function of [itex]r[/itex], so the equation becomes:
[tex]Q = \int \int u_z(r) dA[/tex]
Where [itex]dA = r\; dr\; d \theta[/itex] is the differential area of the pipe. Solving that, we get:
[tex]Q = \int_0^{2 \pi} \int_0^R u_z(r) r\; dr\; d \theta = \int_0^{2 \pi} \int_0^R \left( \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \frac{r^2 - R^2}{4}\right) r\; dr\; d \theta[/tex]
This simplifies to:
[tex]Q = \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \int_0^{2 \pi} \int_0^R \frac{r^3 - r R^2}{4} \; dr\; d \theta[/tex]
[tex]Q = \frac{2 \pi}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \int_0^R \frac{r^3 - r R^2}{4} \; dr[/tex]
[tex]Q = \frac{2 \pi}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz} \left[ \frac{r^4}{16} - \frac{r^2 R^2}{8} \right]_0^R [/tex]
[tex]Q = -\frac{\pi}{\mu} \frac{dP}{dz}\frac{R^4}{8}[/tex]

Now, this is very close to what you had. Yours was in terms of diameter, however, which is [itex]D = 2R[/itex], so you substitute this into our flow rate equation and get your result:
[tex]Q = -\frac{\pi D^4}{128 \mu} \frac{dP}{dz}[/tex]

Note that the negative sign reflects that a negative pressure gradient will move the flow in the positive [itex]z[/itex] direction and in this derivation, [itex]z[/itex] replaces [itex]x[/itex] in your equations.
 
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Thanks boneh3ad!
 

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