Where is religion with no opposing postulate and theorem ?

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The discussion centers on the validity of religion, questioning the existence of opposing postulates and theorems. It asserts that religion is true based on documented leaders, particularly referencing Christ as the son of God, whose resurrection and works are seen as proof. Participants challenge each other's beliefs, with some arguing that all religions are valid while others suggest that only personal beliefs matter. The conversation also touches on the subjective nature of faith and the idea that individual experiences shape one's understanding of spirituality. Ultimately, the dialogue reflects a blend of skepticism and personal interpretation regarding religious truths.
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Where is religion with no opposing postulate and theorem ?

Then religion is true. Religion is proven by it's documented leaders.

Christ's postulate is he is the son of God, witnessed by God. Proven by his works to forgive sins and heal. And finally by his resurrection from the dead.

I want to see your postulate and theorem to show how all religion is false.
 
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russ_waters' proof might be that since jesus didn't go to the moon, that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. i wonder if I'm right...

the way i see it, there are many different levels of consciousness:

10. Heaven Consciousness. Potentially, but not necessarily, uncontrollable, absolute bliss.


9. Near-Heaven Consciousness. Potentially, but not necessarily, uncontrollable, exceptional bliss.


8. Very High Consciousness. A very high degree of bliss and ecstasy.


7. Higher Consciousness. A high degree of bliss and very high degree of ecstasy.


6. Love Consciousness. Bliss and potentially, but not necessarily, uncontrollable, exceptional Love-state.


5. Absolute Peace Consciousness.


4. Burden Consciousness. Mild degree of encumbrance and disturbance of
Peace.


3. Dysteria Consciousness. Depression and potentially, but not necessarily, uncontrollable, disturbance of Peace.


2. Major Depression Consciousness. Major Depression and potentially, but not
necessarily, uncontrollable, high degree of disturbance of Peace.


1. Extreme Depression Consciousness. Extreme Depression and potentially, but
not necessarily, uncontrollable, extreme degree of disturbance of Peace.


0. Hell Consciousness. Absolute Depression and potentially, but
not necessarily, uncontrollable, absolute of disturbance of Peace.


and my hypothesis is that jesus knew them all too well (for his own damn good, i might add)! :P

and even though he didn't go to the moon, he did go to everyplace within himself to search for the kingdom of God.

whether he's the son of God i don't know for sure. i don't even know if i believe in jesus; i never met him face to face. that would prove that to me; that is the where the bar is in my book on that issue. the bar is arbitraily set by us.

may your journey be graceful
 
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Originally posted by b11ngoo
Where is religion with no opposing postulate and theorem ?

Then religion is true. Religion is proven by it's documented leaders.

Christ's postulate is he is the son of God, witnessed by God. Proven by his works to forgive sins and heal. And finally by his resurrection from the dead.

I want to see your postulate and theorem to show how all religion is false.

I AM THE SON OF GOD! I AM THE WAY! I AM TRUTH!

now if that gets published in the NY Times, am i the new religious leader?

if so, please send all donations, no better yet, YOU WILL send donations to me care of physicsforums. we'll invest in art and buildings and you can come and have an audience, if you can afford it.

bless you all,
 
you'll have to do something a bit more drammatic to end up in NY times, my friend.

consider the "phoenix effect." so if a butterfly effects a tornado, what does a TORNADO effect?
 
Originally posted by phoenixthoth
you'll have to do something a bit more drammatic to end up in NY times, my friend.

consider the "phoenix effect." so if a butterfly effects a tornado, what does a TORNADO effect?

duh? the universe, silly goose!

peace,


ps: don't think there is any state of bliss or heaven or hell, sorry.
 
Originally posted by olde drunk
duh? the universe, silly goose!

peace,


ps: don't think there is any state of bliss or heaven or hell, sorry.

i forgive you. :P
 
I want to see your postulate and theorem to show how all religion is false.

Your question implies that you believe that all religions are true which is false.

The possabilities are, Christianity, Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism, Hare Chrishna, Greek Gods, Roman Gods, Celtic Gods, Viking Gods, Oprah, Devil worship, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. In the mind of the believer there can only be one true religion, therefore all religions are false...
 
Christ's postulate is he is the son of God, witnessed by God. Proven by his works to forgive sins and heal. And finally by his resurrection from the dead.


Some Terrorists postulate that when they blow themselves up and take innocent people with them they will go to heaven and be joined by 71 virgins (or is it 77?)

Christ never postulated, other people did many years after his death.
 
actually, my friend told me that jesus always referred to himself as the son of man. so do you see someplace in the bible where it says that he says he's the son of God?
 
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Originally posted by Omni
Christ's postulate is he is the son of God, witnessed by God. Proven by his works to forgive sins and heal. And finally by his resurrection from the dead.


Some Terrorists postulate that when they blow themselves up and take innocent people with them they will go to heaven and be joined by 71 virgins (or is it 77?)

Christ never postulated, other people did many years after his death.

all religions are valid. they serve the purpose of satisfying their followers.
now, for those who seek an explanation without counterdictions or a need to 'have faith' to believe dogma, look inward.

the only true religion is the one within you, or me, or him, oops - or her. whether i belong to a recognized religion or not, i am still going to go with my own individual bias. ergo, i am my religion.

i am also the son of god and/or the son of man. please send all your money to the physics forum for distribution to the worthy (i appoint myself treasurer).

peace,
 
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who do i make the check out to? sike!

:P
 
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