Where is this term coming from?

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The discussion revolves around the origin of a specific term in a mathematical formula related to vector components, particularly focusing on the x-direction component. Participants are exploring the implications of the product rule in this context.

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  • Some participants suggest that the extra x in the second term may arise from the x hat, j hat, and z hat components of the product rule.
  • Others assert that the term comes from the numerator of the formula, specifically mentioning x i-hat.
  • There is a question about why only the x component is included, with speculation that an i hat might be missing, which could eliminate the j and z hat components due to the dot product.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the mathematical notation but believes they have made progress in understanding the issue, noting that the focus on the x direction allows for the exclusion of y hat and z hat.

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Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple interpretations regarding the origin of the term and the role of different vector components in the formula.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made about the vector components and the application of the product rule. The discussion also highlights a lack of clarity in mathematical notation among participants.

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I am back again to ask for your mathematical help.
I got the same result apart from that extra x in the second term? I have boiled it down to that it must have come from maybe the x hat j hat and z hat part of the product rule? Any help would be grateful thank you!
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It comes from numerator of the formula above, x i-hat.
 
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@bigmike94 can you write down what ##A_x## is?
 
anuttarasammyak said:
It comes from numerator of the formula above, x i-hat.
Yeah I had a guess what assumed that was it but why is it included and not y or z aswell? Maybe I am missing an i hat which will get rid of the j and z hat cos of the dot product?
 
PeroK said:
@bigmike94 can you write down what ##A_x## is?
I’m not sure how to type maths in here but I think you have just helped me crack it, because it’s in the x direction only we ignore y hat and z hat, then In the product rule you’re left with the extra x.

I’m not sure if that makes sense to you? But yeah I think I get it now thank you
 
bigmike94 said:
I’m not sure how to type maths in here but I think you have just helped me crack it, because it’s in the x direction only we ignore y hat and z hat, then In the product rule you’re left with the extra x.

I’m not sure if that makes sense to you? But yeah I think I get it now thank you
By definition $$\vec A = A_x \hat i + A_y \hat j + A_z \hat k$$This can also be expressed as:$$A_x = \vec A \cdot \hat i$$

You need to learn some LaTex:

https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/
 
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