Where Should the Third Particle Be Placed for Desired Center of Mass?

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To determine the coordinates for a third particle that achieves a specific center of mass for a three-particle system, the equations for x and y coordinates were set up using the known masses and positions of the first two particles. The initial approach involved solving for the center of mass equations, but there was confusion in simplifying the expressions. Clarifications were provided regarding the correct handling of terms in the equations, particularly in the numerator where only the third particle's mass should be multiplied by its coordinate. The discussion emphasized the importance of proper algebraic manipulation to isolate the variable. Ultimately, the participant successfully resolved their confusion and found the solution.
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[SOLVED] Center of Mass problem

Homework Statement


A 3.12 kg particle has the xy coordinates (-1.76 m, 0.652 m), and a 2.89 kg particle has the xy coordinates (0.380 m, -0.636 m). Both lie on a horizontal plane. At what (a)x and (b)y coordinates must you place a 3.74 kg particle such that the center of mass of the three-particle system has the coordinates (-0.565 m, -0.601 m)?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know this problem is extremely easy but I'm just having trouble getting it. I solve for x(com) and y(com) =

-.565 = (3.12(-1.76)+2.89(.380)+3.74(x))/3.12+2.89+3.74
-.601 = (3.12(.652)+2.89(-.636)+3.74(y))/3.12+2.89+3.74

This is correct right? So how do I pull out to solve for x and y?
 
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Try simplifying your expressions and cross-multiplying?
 
I've tried that and I'm just doing something wrong I think
 
There is nothing wrong with your approach. Maybe if you could post the steps to get the values of x and y someone could figure out where you are going wrong.
 
M total = 9.75

So -.565 = (-5.4912+1.0982+3.74(x)) / 9.75 -> (-.653(x))/9.75 -> -.066974359(x) = -.565

So x = 8.436064315 but I did it wrong apparently.
 
In the numerator you have (-5.4912 + 1.0982 + 3.74x).
You can't add the numbers together to get (-.653x).

Instead you have (-4.393 + 3.74x).
Only the last number is multiplied by x.
 
Can I divide the 3.74x by 9 though?
 
Why would you want to? As mace2 pointed out the equation you want to solve is (3.74*x-4.393)/9.75=-.565.
 
So what should my next step be? Sorry my algebra is horrible but I have no problem in calculus. Go figure.
 
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I would multiply both sides of the equation by 9.75. Shouldn't you? Clear the fraction first. BTW problems in algebra should be causing you HUGE problems in calculus. I've never seen the reverse. Go figure.
 
  • #11
Yeah I was just about to ask that. Thanks for the help got it figured out :P
 
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