Which electron travels from - to +?

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This discussion centers on the behavior of electrons in a circuit, specifically whether the electron that leaves a negative ion (NI) is the same as the one that reaches a positive ion (PI). It concludes that the original electron may not be the one that arrives at the PI, particularly in conductive materials where valence electrons can move freely. Additionally, the assignment of positive and negative charges to protons and electrons is arbitrary, originating from Ben Franklin's conventions, and does not affect the underlying physics, as no theories would be disrupted by switching these designations.

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Ok, let me try to state this properly (I don't know much about this, so try to understand what I am trying to say rather than pick apart any error).

NI-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-PI

NI - Negative Ion
A - Atom
PI -Positive Ion

Now, one electron from NI travels towards PI as in a circuit. Is the electron that left NI the same as the one that reaches PI? Or do the A's just send the one that happens to be closest to PI when they become negatively charged?

One other question while I am at it: Is there any significance to + being assigned to protons and - being assigned to electrons or is this arbitrary? Stated differently, is there any theory or phenomenon that would "break" if you where to switch and say that the proton is negative and the electron is positive?

Help a noobie out.

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As for your first question, I would guess that it would depend on how the ions/atoms are bonded as to whether or not it is the original electron that travels to the PI. For instance, if the atoms in between NI and PI are conductive, they will have a conduction band of valence electrons that freely move, so I would argue that it is probably not the original electron that moves to the PI, however, if say your atoms in between are insulators, that may not be the case, it might be that the electrons will not move at all.

For your other question. The + and - assigned to protons and electrons respectively is completely arbitrary (as I recall it was Ben Franklin that first assigned the + and -). As magnetostatics, and other E&M theories were created, the consensus was that the positive charges are moving in wires, however, we know that it is in fact that the negative charges move. So, it would make sense to either change that theory to negative charges moving, or to call protons negative and electrons positive. In actuality, no theories or phenomenon will "break" but they would potentially make more sense.
 
mat5041 said:
So, it would make sense to either change that theory to negative charges moving, or to call protons negative and electrons positive.

Aye, that was what I was getting at. Everything would be much more straight forward mathematicly if we assigned the positive charge to the electron.

IE:

H(3+) - e = H(2+)

Rather than

H(3+) - e = H(4+)

k
 

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