Which has the most intense sunlight hitting it?

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The discussion centers on determining which location receives the most intense sunlight among four options. Participants ruled out the Equator at sunset and the South Pole during the Northern Hemisphere's summer solstice due to low sunlight intensity. The focus narrowed to the North Pole at noon on the summer solstice and Montreal at noon on the spring equinox. The intensity of sunlight is influenced by the angle of incident rays, with calculations suggesting the North Pole has a more direct angle compared to Montreal. Ultimately, the North Pole at noon on the summer solstice is identified as the location with the most intense sunlight.
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Which has the most intense sunlight hitting it?Question 2 options:
A point on the Equator at sunset

The North Pole at Noon on the Summer Solstace

Montreal at Noon on the Spring Equinox

The South Pole on the (Northern hemisphere) Summer Solstace

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Ruled out first choice as it is at sunset.
Ruled out last choice as the South Pole does not receive much sunlight on the Summer Solstice
Stuck between choice 2 and 3.[/B]
 
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shmijda said:
Stuck between choice 2 and 3.
What do you know about choices 2 & 3?
 
shmijda said:

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That's where you went wrong. Intensity can be described numerically, and then applying what you know about the Sun position in each case is a key to the correct answer.
 
Borek said:
That's where you went wrong. Intensity can be described numerically, and then applying what you know about the Sun position in each case is a key to the correct answer.
We were supposed to do this without looking at the intensity numerically, so how do I choose between 2 and 3?
 
How far above the ecliptic plane are the two locations at the times of the year stated in the question?
 
shmijda said:
We were supposed to do this without looking at the intensity numerically

You can't answer the question without comparing angles. Angles are numbers.
 
shmijda said:
We were supposed to do this without looking at the intensity numerically, so how do I choose between 2 and 3?
You don't need to calculate the intensities, but you can reason mathematically which situation results in more intense sunlight. What determines how intense the sunlight is at noon?
 
vela said:
You don't need to calculate the intensities, but you can reason mathematically which situation results in more intense sunlight. What determines how intense the sunlight is at noon?
The angle of incident rays? In this case I would say the north pole at noon
 
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shmijda said:
The angle of incident rays? In this case I would say the north pole at noon
Are you just guessing? What's the angle between the incident rays and the normal at the North Pole on the summer solstice? You should be able to figure this out knowing the tilt of the Earth and the fact that the North Pole is at 90 degrees latitude.

What about for Montreal on the vernal equinox? If your answer is right, the Sun should be lower in the sky than it was for the North Pole on the summer solstice. Can you justify that?
 
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for north pole on summer solstice - I got angle 66.6
for montreal on equinox - angle 45.5
 
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Those look reasonable, so the Sun is lower in the sky in...
 
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vela said:
Those look reasonable, so the Sun is lower in the sky in...
Montreal, thus North pole at noon on summer solstice is right?
 
  • #14
Those angles are between the incident ray and the normal. Zero degrees would correspond to the Sun being directly overhead, and 90 degrees would be if the Sun were on the horizon.
 
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