Why Are Clockwise Moments Negative and Anti-Clockwise Moments Positive?

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The discussion revolves around the conventions of defining clockwise moments as negative and anti-clockwise moments as positive in the context of physics and mechanics. Participants explore the rationale behind these conventions and the implications of using different systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the designation of clockwise moments as negative and anti-clockwise moments as positive is an arbitrary convention.
  • One participant references the right-hand rule, noting that it aligns with the anti-clockwise direction, but questions whether the convention is inherently correct.
  • Another participant mentions that using the opposite convention would yield the same results, provided consistency is maintained across calculations.
  • There is a personal account of using different conventions for different axes, indicating that individual preferences can influence the application of these rules.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of consistency in whichever convention is chosen, suggesting that clarity in communication is essential.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the conventions are arbitrary and that consistency is key, but there is no consensus on which convention is preferable or more valid.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying interpretations of the right-hand rule and its dependence on the chosen coordinate system, highlighting the subjective nature of these conventions.

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Why are clockwise moments taken as negative and anti-clockwise moment as positive? Why not the other way around?
 
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An arbitrary convention. But if you like the right-hand rule, you will find that your right thumb points up if your fingers are curled in the counter-clockwise direction.

Perhaps the clock makers are the ones with the wrong convention!
 
If you do it the other way around, you'll get the same answers (as long as you are consistent).

I actually sometimes do it the other way around (because when I visualize 3D coords, the Z axis goes out forward in front of me, so pointing my thumb in the positive direction makes my fingers curl clockwise)

So for my X and Y axes it's "the right hand rule" but for my Z axis, (in order to be consistent,) it's "the left hand rule"

(I could just flip my Z axis, but that's very unnatural to me, especially when the Z axis represents time)Like Ultrafast said, it's just a convention.I just wanted to point out that "the right hand rule" only works if you follow another arbitrary convention (the conventional positive/negative directions of each axis)
 
Do whatever you like as long as you are consistent.
 
sophiecentaur said:
Do whatever you like as long as you are consistent.

... and explain which convention you are using!
 

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