B Why can't one metre be more than one metre?

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The discussion centers on the philosophical implications of measurement, specifically questioning whether a metre could contain more than its defined length, such as an additional three invisible centimetres. Participants emphasize that a metre is a fixed unit of measurement, and altering its definition would require a complete overhaul of the measurement system. The conversation highlights the importance of logical consistency in both philosophy and mathematics, asserting that one metre cannot equal 103 centimetres without redefining the unit itself. Ultimately, the forum concludes that such inquiries may not lead to productive discussion within established measurement rules. The thread was subsequently closed due to the lack of further relevant dialogue.
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Hello,

Recently, I have been trying to work on some philosophy that I am developing, and the subject of measurement has come up.

My question goes a bit like this:
Suppose that it turned out that when you measure point A to point B as exactly 100cm (one metre), there are actually three invisible centimetres (just an example number) in that 100cm. Therefore you would still be using the standard decimal system as reference, as it would still be described as a metre, but there are actually three extra centimetres so that you call it 103cm.

I have been told that this is not possible, and the reason I was given is: "one metre is one metre, it can't be 103 cm unless you were to change the whole system."

What I then tried to say, is that what if measurements of length actually measured matter to some degree. For example, we can say that we are measuring the length of matter from point A to point B. What if there was an extra 3cm of matter that we hadn't accounted for?

I got the same answer: that this would be impossible because a metre is a metre.

Can people at the physics forums explain why?
 
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jomsur said:
Suppose that it turned out that when you measure point A to point B as exactly 100cm (one metre), there are actually three invisible centimetres (just an example number) in that 100cm.
What does that mean?
 
DrClaude said:
What does that mean?
Philosophy.
 
If it doesn't make sense, why not?
 
jomsur said:
I have been trying to work on some philosophy
Even philosophers should stick with logic whenever possible. ##1=1## but ##1\ne 1.03##. It doesn't matter if you are talking about meters or seconds or apples or pure numbers.

Beyond simply stating the facts, there is not much we can discuss within the rules of the forum. So the thread is closed
 
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