Music Why Can't This Person Stay Away from Online Forums?

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The discussion centers around the controversy of teaching children ideologies perceived as harmful, particularly racism and bigotry. A specific case involving two girls who donated supplies to Hurricane Katrina victims through a White Nationalist organization sparked outrage, leading to debates about child abuse laws and parental rights. Participants argue whether teaching children such beliefs constitutes psychological abuse or if it falls under parental rights to educate their children as they see fit. The conversation touches on the need for potential regulations on homeschooling, suggesting that parents should undergo evaluations to ensure they provide a well-rounded education. There are conflicting views on the role of government in regulating moral teachings, with some advocating for protections against harmful ideologies while others emphasize individual freedoms and the dangers of moral absolutism. The dialogue also explores the implications of labeling certain teachings as abusive and the potential for societal norms to shift over time, questioning the balance between protecting children and respecting parental rights.
  • #51
And by the age of 16, when the kids have all kinds of disorders from simply doing what they're taught, who is responsible for that ?

There were lots of people who were raised in Nazism and they got over it. You aren't going to get some disease from being raised by racists. Oh, and people are reasonsible for their own actions.
 
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  • #52
Entropy said:
I said it once and I'll say it again: People should have to get a license to have children. If you have a kid and don't have a license the penalty is castration.

I would agree that people should have to get a license to have kids...

I don't think people have right to have kids.
 
  • #53
Townsend said:
There is a clear difference between teaching your children what to believe and teaching your children to do something that is physically harmful.
Recall a couple of posts ago when you claimed I was no one to judge parents for teaching their kids to do something that was physically harmful.

Townsend said:
Gokul43201 said:
And if you teach your kids that it is morally reprehensible to do anything but bang your head against a wall a hundred times a day ?

What if? What is your point? Some people are strange...who are you to judge them?

Do you now rescind this objection ?
 
  • #54
Townsend said:
I would agree that people should have to get a license to have kids...

I don't think people have right to have kids.
I'll third that...though I haven't thought much about it.
 
  • #55
Gokul43201 said:
Recall a couple of posts ago when you claimed I was no one to judge parents for teaching their kids to do something that was physically harmful.
Do you now rescind this objection ?

Yes...

If something can be demonstrated as abuse in an objective manner then I will agree that it is abuse.
 
  • #56
Townsend said:
Yes...
If something can be demonstrated as abuse in an objective manner then I will agree that it is abuse.
How about contributing to the delinquency of a minor? If they are being taught things that lead them to hurt others out of the belief that those other people are unimportant and that hurting others is okay, isn't that harmful? How is the upbringing of these children, isolated from anyone different from them and intentionally taught only what fits with their parents' bigotry, any different from children raised in a cult?
 
  • #57
Man too bad none of this would ever fly in the real world. God i'd love it if people weren't allowed to have kids until they were able to show an active brain.
 
  • #59
Moonbear said:
How about contributing to the delinquency of a minor? If they are being taught things that lead them to hurt others out of the belief that those other people are unimportant and that hurting others is okay, isn't that harmful? How is the upbringing of these children, isolated from anyone different from them and intentionally taught only what fits with their parents' bigotry, any different from children raised in a cult?
The problem is that this assumes they are being taught to hate and to harm. Though the word "hate" flew around in the article quite a bit they never showed any evidence that the girls promoted hatred. They made statements about "racial pride". Is that really synonymous with hatred? Are people who promote "black pride" or "brown pride" promoting hatred? They referred to the nazis but does that necessarily promote murder? Many people use Che Guevara as an icon and I don't see them being accused of promoting murder much.
You know I actually used to hang out quite often with a girl who was against intercultural marriage. Funny enough she was actually very much a liberal. She was against intercultural marriage because she had such a strong reverance for all cultures that she did not want to see them diluted through mixing them together. Ofcourse if I simply said that she was against intercultural marriage you would probably assume that she was a bigot.

So it's not so clear and easily defined here is it.
 
  • #60
Moonbear said:
How about contributing to the delinquency of a minor? If they are being taught things that lead them to hurt others out of the belief that those other people are unimportant and that hurting others is okay, isn't that harmful? How is the upbringing of these children, isolated from anyone different from them and intentionally taught only what fits with their parents' bigotry, any different from children raised in a cult?

these kids don't live in an ethnicly diverse area. they just try to avoid minoritys all together.
 
  • #61
Townsend got kicked out?
 
  • #62
laminatedevildoll said:
Townsend got kicked out?
No, he asked to be banned because he can't stay away on his own.
 
  • #63
Pfft, he's just trying to avoid responding to my thread. He's been putting it off since August, this is his last attempt to get me to let him get away with it.


WELL IT WON'T WORK! YOU HAVE TO COME BACK EVENTUALLY TOWNSEND!
 
  • #64
Still too bad, we just get TSM and back, and now Townsend's gone... :(
 
  • #65
Pretty good trade off if you ask me.

Hey, I wonder if we can trade pengwuino for Franz.
 
  • #66
No, he asked to be banned because he can't stay away on his own.

Damn, these forums are like crack.
 

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