Why can't we perceive extra dimensions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perception of extra dimensions as proposed by string theory, questioning why humans cannot perceive these dimensions and exploring the implications of their characteristics, such as being "twisted up." The scope includes conceptual reasoning and speculative hypotheses regarding human perception and genetic limitations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the inability to perceive extra dimensions might be due to genetic wiring, similar to how certain animals cannot understand complex concepts.
  • Others argue that this reasoning lacks testable predictions and question what specific aspects of genetic wiring would prevent the perception of extra dimensions.
  • One participant describes "twisted up" dimensions as having intrinsic curvature, suggesting they are not curved in conventional space but possess their own form of curvature.
  • Another participant speculates that some individuals might possess genes that allow them to perceive extra dimensions, though this claim is met with skepticism.
  • A later reply asserts that the idea of some people being able to see extra dimensions is not physically possible, leading to a closure of the thread due to the speculative nature of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the nature of perception of extra dimensions and the validity of genetic explanations. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the implications of genetic wiring and the characteristics of extra dimensions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about genetic wiring and the nature of dimensional perception, as well as the lack of clarity on what constitutes "twisted up" dimensions in a mathematical context.

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String theorists postulate that our world has 9 dimensions and these extra dimensions are very twisted up such that they are too small to be seen.

Question 1:
Why don't we postulate, instead, that the reason we can't see these extra dimensions is because we are not genetically wired to do so, just like a fish or a worm is not genetically wired to understand economics?

Question 2:
What does it mean for these dimensions to be twisted up? Twisted up in where? What I imagine is these dimensions are twisted like a tiny ball of threads; they would be twisted in our macro 3-dimensional space. If so, this picture seems wrong because then they are still existing in our 3-dimensional space, not really being extra-dimensional.
 
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Q1: that's just the same statement but more general and without any testable predictions - i.e. it is "begging the question".
What is it about our genetic wiring that prevents us from seeing the extra dimensions?

Q2: "twisted up" = "lots of curvature". It's maths.
They are not curved in space (in a sense they are space), but have intrinsic curvature like regular spacetime does only more of it.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Q1: that's just the same statement but more general and without any testable predictions - i.e. it is "begging the question".
What is it about our genetic wiring that prevents us from seeing the extra dimensions?

Or maybe some people have the genes that allow them to see the extra dimensions. But when they say they do, we don't believe them.
 
Happiness said:
Or maybe some people have the genes that allow them to see the extra dimensions.

That is, quite literally, not physically possible. At all. Thread locked since we don't allow speculation of this nature.
 

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