Why Do Calculations for Circular Motion Differ from the Textbook?

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The forum discussion centers on discrepancies between calculated values for velocity and acceleration in circular motion and those presented in a textbook. Users analyze the calculations at key points, specifically at π and (3π)/2, revealing consistent errors in the textbook's results. The correct velocity at π is -1j, while the textbook states -2i, and the correct acceleration at π is 1/2i, contrary to the textbook's -1j. Similarly, at (3π)/2, the calculated velocity is 1i, while the textbook claims -√2i - √2j, indicating a need for careful review of trigonometric functions and their application in circular motion.

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I understand how to get the derivatives for velocity and acceleration but when the book plugs in the numbers I disagree.

velocity at pi
2 sin pi/2 = 0
2 cos pi/2 = -1j
therefore, 0 + - 1j = -1j (the books says -2i)

velocity at (3pi)/2
2 sin 3pi/2 = 0
2 cos 3pi/2 = 1i
therefore, 0 + 1i = 1i (the book says -√2i - √2j)

acc at pi
-cos pi/2 = 1/2i
-sin pi/2 = 0
therefore, 1/2i + 0 = 1/2i (the book says -1j)

acc at (3pi/2)
-cos 3pi/2 = 0
-sin 3pi/2 = 1/2j
therefore, 1/2j (the book says -√2/2i - √2/2j)
 
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hi bobsmith76! :smile:

(have a pi: π :wink:)

hmm …
bobsmith76 said:
velocity at pi
2 sin pi/2 = 0
2 cos pi/2 = -1j
therefore, 0 + - 1j = -1j (the books says -2i)
acc at pi
-cos pi/2 = 1/2i
-sin pi/2 = 0
therefore, 1/2i + 0 = 1/2i (the book says -1j)

sinπ/2 = 1
cosπ/2 = 0
velocity at (3pi)/2
2 sin 3pi/2 = 0
2 cos 3pi/2 = 1i
therefore, 0 + 1i = 1i (the book says -√2i - √2j)
acc at (3pi/2)
-cos 3pi/2 = 0
-sin 3pi/2 = 1/2j
therefore, 1/2j (the book says -√2/2i - √2/2j)

no, you need 3π/4 :redface:

get some sleep! :zzz:
 
I highly recommend you review your trig and algebra.

bobsmith76 said:
velocity at pi
2 sin pi/2 = 0
2 cos pi/2 = -1j
therefore, 0 + - 1j = -1j (the books says -2i)

sin(pi/2)=1 and cos(pi/2)=0.

velocity at (3pi)/2
2 sin 3pi/2 = 0
2 cos 3pi/2 = 1i
therefore, 0 + 1i = 1i (the book says -√2i - √2j)

That's not what you need to calculate. You need to calculate -2sin(3pi/4) and 2cos(3pi/4).

acc at pi
-cos pi/2 = 1/2i
-sin pi/2 = 0
therefore, 1/2i + 0 = 1/2i (the book says -1j)

cos(pi/2)=0 and sin(pi/2) = 1.

acc at (3pi/2)
-cos 3pi/2 = 0
-sin 3pi/2 = 1/2j
therefore, 1/2j (the book says -√2/2i - √2/2j)

That's not what you need to calculate. You need -cos(3pi/4) and -sin(3pi/4)
 

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