Why do elderly Americans tend to hoard possessions and food?

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The discussion revolves around the eating habits and food quality in America, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals when dining out and the challenges they face in finding healthy options. Participants express their frustrations with the prevalence of unhealthy food choices and the cultural implications of these dietary trends.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express strong dissatisfaction with American cuisine, describing it as unhealthy and overly processed, with specific examples of food items that they find unappetizing.
  • There are claims that dining out in America is a challenging experience due to the prevalence of unhealthy options, leading some to seek alternatives in grocery stores or ethnic diners.
  • Some participants argue that it is possible to find good meals if one knows where to look, suggesting that local recommendations can lead to better dining experiences.
  • Concerns are raised about the ingredients in common food items, such as high-fructose corn syrup in fruit drinks, indicating a broader issue with food labeling and health awareness.
  • Participants share anecdotes about their personal experiences with food while traveling, highlighting the variability of food quality across different regions.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the idea of "dumpster fruit smoothies," reflecting a mix of sarcasm and genuine frustration with food options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express dissatisfaction with the quality of food available in America, but there are competing views on the availability of good meals and the ease of finding healthy options. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing opinions on the state of American cuisine.

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Some participants note that their experiences may vary based on location, and there are references to the cultural context of food choices that may influence perceptions of quality and health.

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Individuals interested in food culture, health and nutrition, and the dining experiences in America may find this discussion relevant.

Rach3
They eat anything! Why, o why does this place have such awful taste, I can't even go out for lunch, it's all crisco-fried this, and 3,500g portons of that, or bird entrails served in rolled-up newspaper, or reprocessed garbage (served to 'over 99 billion'). And even if you should find a vegetable somewhere, chances are it's some shrivelled-up mess found sprouting in a gutter somewhere, then stored in a freezer for three years.

It makes it extremely difficult to travel domestically here; eating out is a perilous, exciting adventure. There goes $3 on what was falsely labeled a "fruit smoothie"; it's not fruit, it's 58g of sugar in the form of high-fructose corn syrup. Disgusting! And then the $6 that went for a "breakfast"; e.g., "crepes", fried in some revolting concotion of vegetable oil, still glistening on the surface. (The single-person order being big enough to feed a family of six, I add.) Or the atrocities that pass for the "complemantary" breakfast at this hotel ("complement"ary, my foot!). My stomache is churning as I write this rant...

I'm going to great lengths to avoid anything remotely American in cusine, and I'm still tripping up. Even the most innocent-sounding things ("fruit smoothies") are toxin-laden emetics. Even most ethnic restaurants re-arranged their recipies to cater to the sodium-craving, grease-coated palate (such as the tasteless, triple-salted "miso", in 750ml serving size.) I'd like to admit defeat and eat nothing but fresh produce - but I can't find that! No one eats fresh fruit in America; the best you can do is the rare, undersized, overripe, tasteless apple. I bet most Americans don't even know what a real apple tastes like.

Thank God for the first-generation immigrants and their tiny, unprofitable ethnic diners.
 
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Rach3 said:
They eat anything! Why, o why does this place have such awful taste, I can't even go out for lunch, it's all crisco-fried this, and 3,500g portons of that, or bird entrails served in rolled-up newspaper, or reprocessed garbage (served to 'over 99 billion'). And even if you should find a vegetable somewhere, chances are it's some shrivelled-up mess found sprouting in a gutter somewhere, then stored in a freezer for three years.

It makes it extremely difficult to travel domestically here; eating out is a perilous, exciting adventure. There goes $3 on what was falsely labeled a "fruit smoothie"; it's not fruit, it's 58g of sugar in the form of high-fructose corn syrup. Disgusting! And then the $6 that went for a "breakfast"; e.g., "crepes", fried in some revolting concotion of vegetable oil, still glistening on the surface. (The single-person order being big enough to feed a family of six, I add.) Or the atrocities that pass for the "complemantary" breakfast at this hotel ("complement"ary, my foot!). My stomache is churning as I write this rant...

I'm going to great lengths to avoid anything remotely American in cusine, and I'm still tripping up. Even the most innocent-sounding things ("fruit smoothies") are toxin-laden emetics. Even most ethnic restaurants re-arranged their recipies to cater to the sodium-craving, grease-coated palate (such as the tasteless, triple-salted "miso", in 750ml serving size.) I'd like to admit defeat and eat nothing but fresh produce - but I can't find that! No one eats fresh fruit in America; the best you can do is the rare, undersized, overripe, tasteless apple. I bet most Americans don't even know what a real apple tastes like.

Thank God for the first-generation immigrants and their tiny, unprofitable ethnic diners.

You are likely never more than a mile or two from a grocery store. There you will fiind amazing volumes of anything that you could want. But if you go to crap restaurants for food, that's what you'll get.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
You are likely never more than a mile or two from a grocery store. There you will fiind amazing volumes of anything that you could want. But if you go to crap restaurants for food, that's what you'll get.

You mean these "convenience" stores? Why would I go there, there's fresher vegetable matter in the alley dumpsters.
 
Rach3 said:
You mean these "convenience" stores? Why would I go there, there's fresher vegetable matter in the alley dumpsters.
Fine. You're probably within a mile or two of an alley dumpster too. :-p
 
Rach3 said:
You mean these "convenience" stores? Why would I go there, there's fresher vegetable matter in the alley dumpsters.

Do you know what a supermarket is?
 
My point is not that I'm incapable of finding edible food in this city (I'm alive, aren't I?); it's that this anti-cuisine of grease permeates the culture so thoroughly, that it takes significant effort to avoid it. I mean come on, since when do fruit drinks contain 58g of high-fructose corn syrup? (Please don't answer that.)
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Do you know what a supermarket is?

Yes. They keep me alive, when I am in a position to cook for myself. You know, access to a stove, all that.

I'm traveling at the moment, and I'm suddenly discovering the amazing world of American.
 
Well, I hardly ever eat any of it. This is true for many people. If you know an area you can usually find places that serve good food, but around hotels and such they cater to the fast food and business crowd.
 
I have no idea what city your in where you can't find a good meal. I've never had that problem, and I've been in every state. I almost always ask people who live local, where the best place to eat is. The tips have me off the beaten path, to some wonderful places.
 
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hypatia said:
I have no idea what city your in where you can't find a good meal. I've never had that problem, and I've been in every state. I almost always ask people who live local, where the best place to eat is. The tips have me off the beaten path, to some wonderful places.

I can; it's just taken too much trial-and-error.

Just let me enjoy my bitter ranting, please? :biggrin:
 
  • #11
Dumpster fruit smoothies are good for you.
 
  • #12
Just let me enjoy my bitter ranting, please?

Fair enough. Besides, my milkshake and nachos are ready.
 
  • #13
Back to my whining; why on Earth does anyone eat this stuff? Are people going crazy? Am I going crazy?
 
  • #14
MedullaPancreas said:
...fruit smoothies are good for you.

Funny statement coming from a username containing "Pancreas". :rolleyes:
 
  • #15
Lol, you could always run down to the supermarket, buy some wraps, tomatoes, lettuce, some nice cheese. mmmm, no stove necessary, and I am getting hungry just thinking about it.
 
  • #16
Ivan Seeking said:
Fair enough. Besides, my milkshake and nachos are ready.

Perhaps you have enemies so bitter they seek to poison you. No matter; you're outdoing them.
 
  • #17
Rach3 said:
I can; it's just taken too much trial-and-error.

Just let me enjoy my bitter ranting, please? :biggrin:


lol enjoy!:smile:
 
  • #18
Rach3 said:
Back to my whining; why on Earth does anyone eat this stuff? Are people going crazy? Am I going crazy?
Cheeseburger > all. (except maybe bacon cheeseburger) And pizza has all of the necessary food groups. I don't see why anyone would eat anything else!
 
  • #19
Rach3 said:
You mean these "convenience" stores? Why would I go there, there's fresher vegetable matter in the alley dumpsters.
No, real stores that real people buy their food from. It is possible to eat healthy and satisfying food almost anywhere in the US, but not if you settle for the "lowest common denominator". That is a recipe for crap.
 
  • #20
I understand what you mean Rach, even over here, everything is caked in sugar and grease. Even when you go to the supermarket and actually look at labels you will find that the things you thought were healthy actually contain way too much sugar. For instence fruit juice that says "no sugar added" just means that if the fruit was imported no sugar was added when it arrived here and was packaged
 
  • #21
You can get a meal in a grocery store that doesn't require cooking when traveling. When I'm traveling a lot or for an extended period of time, I do that because there are only so many days one can stand eating in restaurants before their digestive system rebels. Go to the bakery section, and get some fresh bread or rolls. Head to the salad bar and make yourself a salad (you can also use the salad bar to get yourself a single-serving of lettuce and tomato, pre-cut, to go on your sandwich). Go to the deli and get some sliced cheese (or pick up something from the cheese section that's more interesting than deli cheese). While at the deli, look for something like roast beef or roast turkey, which are the least processed deli meats, and get some of that to add to your sandwich. Grab an avocado to add some interest to your salad (or slice it onto your sandwich, or just enjoy it plain for another meal), and get a small jar of mustard to spread some on your sandwich (mustard keeps without refrigeration, so good if you need to store it at the hotel without a refrigerator for future sandwiches). Pick up some fruit from the produce section...this is good "on-the-go" for snacking.

Or, you can just find a good deli in the area and let them make your sandwich. Most delis make huge sandwiches, so you can eat half and wrap up the other half for a second meal later.

Oh, and don't forget to grab a box of plastic knives, forks and spoons so you have utensils to eat with. Water comes out of the tap at the hotel :wink:, so no need to resort to things like fruit smoothies.
 
  • #22
I agree with Rach3! Every apple(/fruit/vegetable) is a 'clone' of the other. They're nothing but good looking. If you ever visit another country not in North America or Europe for sightseeing or whatever, don't forget to eat fruits there. Countries in Asia and esp. the subcontinent have amazingly different fruits/vegetables. It's worth the try!
 
  • #23
And if you head to the deep south, try eating raccoon. If its cooked right, it dosent taste American at all.
 
  • #24
hypatia said:
And if you head to the deep south, try eating raccoon. If its cooked right, it dosent taste American at all.

you're making me homesick. :cry:
 
  • #25
You should see the thing they eat on the "American" TV show Fear Factor .
Makes me want to hug my mom ...
 
  • #26
apples said:
I agree with Rach3! Every apple(/fruit/vegetable) is a 'clone' of the other. They're nothing but good looking...

I was sick recently and thought I'd try apples to aid in my recovery and I discovered Honey Crisp apples. They are rather large, have a very crisp flesh, and are deliciously sweet. Yes, they are around $3.00/lb but worth it. I loath Red Delicious apples except for baking. They are small and grainy and suck as only small, grainy apples can.
 
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Echo 6 Sierra said:
Yes, they are around $3.00/lb but worth it.

That's nothing! The apples they have in Japan are typically $2 USD per apple, as big as oversize grapefruits, and more flavorful than all other fruits in the world put together. They're sold individually wrapped in white nets. (It's funny how over-wrapped things are in Japan, like the individually shrink-wrapped bananas. :confused:)
 
  • #28
My favorite are Gala apples, but they are pretty expensive to.
 
  • #29
Those are quite cheap over here and are delicious!
 
  • #30
Echo 6 Sierra said:
I was sick recently and thought I'd try apples to aid in my recovery and I discovered Honey Crisp apples. They are rather large, have a very crisp flesh, and are deliciously sweet. Yes, they are around $3.00/lb but worth it. I loath Red Delicious apples except for baking. They are small and grainy and suck as only small, grainy apples can.

A Red Or Golden Delicious Apple picked off the tree is pretty good, sweet and crunchy. They begin to degrade the instant they are picked, within a few days they are nearly in-edible, turning into apple sauce in a tough skin.