Why do men prefer hot girls over cute girls?

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The discussion revolves around the preference of males for "hot" girls over "cute" girls, with participants exploring the definitions and implications of these terms. Many contributors argue that perceptions of attractiveness are subjective and vary widely among individuals. Some suggest that "hot" is often associated with sexual availability, while "cute" may imply innocence or approachability. The conversation touches on cultural references, such as themes from movies like "Grease" and "Shrek," where characters transform from cute to hot to gain affection. Participants also delve into the biological aspects of attraction, mentioning factors like ovulation and societal stereotypes about women's behavior. Ultimately, the dialogue reflects a complex interplay of personal preferences, societal norms, and the fluidity of attractiveness, with no definitive conclusion reached on the original question.
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This is a very random question. Why does most males prefer hot girls over cute girls (provided that they're both different type of looks)?
 
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jhooper3581 said:
This is a very random question. Why does most males prefer hot girls over cute girls (provided that they're both different type of looks)?

Doesn't that beg the question?
 


jhooper3581 said:
This is a very random question. Why does most males prefer hot girls over cute girls (provided that they're both different type of looks)?

I'm not even sure I understand what you're trying to say.
 


I prefer cute girls over hot girls :P
As for other males, I do not know.

I'm not even sure I understand what you're trying to say.

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<--- cute girl.

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<-- hot girl

See the difference xD (everyone has there own idea of cute and hot though..)
 
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Sorry! said:
Doesn't that beg the question?

I don't think it's begging the question yet. It would become begging the question if someone answered something like "Men prefer hot girls over cute ones because hot girls are generally preferable, whereas cute girls are merely cute." In other words, to "beg the question" you have to answer the question by asserting the assumptions of the question.
 


yyttr2 said:
See the difference xD ..)
Aren't they both 1 person?o:)
 


jhooper3581 said:
Why does most males prefer hot girls over cute girls (provided that they're both different type of looks)?

Define hot, define cute, show research that supports your statement.
 


See the difference xD (everyone has there own idea of cute and hot though..)
Those are some terrible examples to illustrate your point.
Top one looks like a picture from the 80's and the bottom one is a profile view, reflected out of a mirror and almost completely obscured by hair.
 


I have just googled for images of "cute girls" and "hot girls". Can't say I have seen any systematic anatomical differences.
 
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I lined up six cute girls one one side and a half dozen hot girls on the other. I was in the process of deciding which I like better when my wife came in. I prefer the quiet life, but I don't live it.
 
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jhooper3581 said:
This is a very random question. Why does most males prefer hot girls over cute girls (provided that they're both different type of looks)?

Why do you think most males prefer hot girls over cute girls? How you define these might be completely different than how someone else does. What you consider cute, they might consider hot. I do see what you are getting at though, and I think it really depends on who you are asking and what stage of their life they are in. I think people that aren't looking for a relationship at all prefer hot girls while someone looking to settle down a little more would prefer someone they find to be beautiful. Although I think beauty develops as you get to know someone so you could go from thinking they are hot to thinking they are beautiful. I guess "hotness" is more related to lust and beauty related to love. I don't know if anything I just said makes sense but there's my two cents.

jimmysnyder said:
I lined up six cute girls one one side and a half dozen hot girls on the other. I was in the process of deciding which I like better when my wife came in. I prefer the quiet life, but I don't live it.

:smile:
 
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jhooper3581 said:
This is a very random question. Why does most males prefer hot girls over cute girls (provided that they're both different type of looks)?

Because body temperature rises about 0.4 degrees during ovulation until a few days before the start of a woman's menstrual cycle. Mating is more effective at creating offspring if it's done when a woman is fertile, so natural selection makes women with a higher body temperature more attractive than women that just look nice.

Well, it sounds good. :rolleyes:

And women are usually perceived to be more attractive when ovulating.

However, some women don't understand the compliment when you tell them they look as if they're ovulating.
 
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I understand what the OP is talking about, and I prefer cute girls. As to why, I can't give a definitive answer.
 
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Wasn't this one of the themes in Grease (and more recently, Glee)? The "cute" girl transformed into the "hot" girl to secure the affections of her beloved.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Wasn't this one of the themes in Grease (and more recently, Glee)? The "cute" girl transformed into the "hot" girl to secure the affections of her beloved.
Romeo and Juliet too, except she transformed into a hot guy. It's complicated and it didn't work out well.
 
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jimmysnyder said:
I lined up six cute girls one one side and a half dozen hot girls on the other. I was in the process of deciding which I like better when my wife came in. I prefer the quiet life, but I don't live it.

:smile::smile::smile:
 
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I think this was the theme of Shrek, too, where Fiona turned into a hot chick every night and back into a cute chick every day.
 
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Personally I like it when cute girls decide to look hot. I think most cute girls can also look hot. But not necessarily vice versa.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I don't think it's begging the question yet. It would become begging the question if someone answered something like "Men prefer hot girls over cute ones because hot girls are generally preferable, whereas cute girls are merely cute." In other words, to "beg the question" you have to answer the question by asserting the assumptions of the question.

I think that is: circulus in probando (circular arguement).

What I meant by begging the question is that the OP has assumed that 'most guys prefer "hot" girls over "cute" girls.' I'm not sure if that's what begging the question means though. the way I view it is that they have made an assumption that should be proved prior but they've just stated it as a premise.

I do not 'prefer' hot girls over cute girls but I think these subjective terms would have to be more precisely defined to continue a discussion anyways.
 
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This is an age old discussion: Ginger or Mary Ann?
 
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BobG said:
I think this was the theme of Shrek, too, where Fiona turned into a hot chick every night and back into a cute chick every day.

Whether she was hot at night and cute during a day is a matter of personal preferences.

Back to the original question - what if someone prefers cute girls during a day and hot girls during a night?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
This is an age old discussion: Ginger or Mary Ann?

Definitely Mary Ann!

She's hot!
 
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Sorry! said:
I think that is: circulus in probando (circular arguement).

What I meant by begging the question is that the OP has assumed that 'most guys prefer "hot" girls over "cute" girls.' I'm not sure if that's what begging the question means though.
I'm not completely certain myself, but I've googled it and read about 5 different sites. A couple of them characterize it as a form of circular argument, and it seems, from all 5 sites, that in order to constitute "begging the question" you need both an unproven assumption and a conclusion based on that assumption. The OP has only unproven assumptions. So, I don't think it's begging the question yet, and won't be until someone offers a conclusion arising from acceptance of the unproven assumptions. My impression is that, to be properly labeled as "begging the question" it's acceptable for the conclusion to be completely circular ("because hot girls are preferable") or not so circular ("because hot girls give the impression they'd be more exiting in bed").

All of which begs the question:"Aren't these complex arcane usages doomed by the slow but inexorable bulldozer of the increasingly popular, and simpler, use of the term as synonymous with 'raises the question'?"
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
This is an age old discussion: Ginger or Mary Ann?
Mary Ann always wins because she was authentically cute while Ginger was always a hollow caricature of a hot woman.

Let's level the playing field and pit Mary Ann against authentically hot Ultraviolet:

Mary Ann:
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/blurbex/files/2008/03/mary-ann.jpg

Ultraviolet:
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/Q/J/8/ultraviolet01250610.jpg
 
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I think that most men prefer women who can be both, but that is just a guess.

I prefer 'cute' primarily and 'hot' secondarily.
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
I think that most men prefer women who can be both, but that is just a guess.

I prefer 'cute' primarily and 'hot' secondarily.

I prefer what I'm feeling at that particular moment in time.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Wasn't this one of the themes in Grease (and more recently, Glee)? The "cute" girl transformed into the "hot" girl to secure the affections of her beloved.

Vanadium 50 said:
This is an age old discussion: Ginger or Mary Ann?


Thank you for the translations. I guess I don't speak Current Young Male. Or something.

MIH, I always resented that theme from Grease, although I was convinced it was true when I saw the movie when I was a teenager.

Um, so, okay, are we debating a supposed universal truth, then?

P.S. Post #4 you were entirely unhelpful.
 
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GeorginaS said:
Thank you for the translations. I guess I don't speak Current Young Male. Or something.

MIH, I always resented that theme from Grease, although I was convinced it was true when I saw the movie when I was a teenager.

Um, so, okay, are we debating a supposed universal truth, then?

P.S. Post #4 you were entirely unhelpful.

You could probably better describe it as "innocent" versus... "not so innocent" ("slutty" probably carries too much of a negative connotation). At least I think this describes better what is going on in the average male's mind.

The OP seems to think that men prefer the "not so innocent" type. I think that this is more a matter of them broadcasting a more 'sexual' (in men's minds) message than their counterparts. They tend to turn more heads with a short skirt, boldness, aggressiveness, ect. "Innocent" tends to be more shy, demure, coy, ect. They tend to be less obvious and many men may feel they are not as approachable so they tend to receive less direct attention. Its a stereotype that you are supposed to be more gentle with "innocent" women and more aggressive with "not so innocent" women. I think this is probably why it may seem that "hot" women get more attention.
 
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BobG said:
Definitely Mary Ann!

She's hot!

She's totally hot. Which should confuse Georgina. But the fact is "hot" can be used to describe any sexually attractive girl. A girl's hotness may only have to be distinguished as the cute variety when she's being compared to a girl whose hotness is of the hot variety.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
She's totally hot. Which should confuse Georgina.

Similar to the difference in girl-speak between 'Cute' and 'Handsome'. I never got that distinction either. :confused:
 
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I like cute or hot girls.
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Provided that they are naked.
 
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rolerbe said:
Similar to the difference in girl-speak between 'Cute' and 'Handsome'. I never got that distinction either. :confused:

Hmm..."handsome" doesn't have the same connotation as "hot", mostly because women aren't wired to pursue men who advertise they are sexually available (that's how I interpret "hot" in this context).

To me, "handsome" describes a man who is nice looking and very masculine. "Cute" describes a male who is nice looking but not a mature man yet.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
She's totally hot. Which should confuse Georgina. But the fact is "hot" can be used to describe any sexually attractive girl. A girl's hotness may only have to be distinguished as the cute variety when she's being compared to a girl whose hotness is of the hot variety.

Hey! You're deliberately trying to confuse me, now? :wink:

Of course hot women can be cute and cute women hot. I just needed some working definitions because I know what I mean when I use those terms. And, the OP apparently thinks they're completely independent of each other. And, further, thinks that blanket assumptions apply vis the question of said hotness and cuteness.

SA, I understand what's suggested and what's implied by the pigeonholes; I don't agree with the idea of universality of appeal (then again, I'm female), and I don't agree with media that reinforce the ideas. Grease is a great example. I'm not a fan of twisting oneself into a pretzel to fit someone else's idea of desirability. And I'm not a fan of desirability being so narrowly defined, and I further don't believe in the narrowness of that supposed definition. And I don't think I've had enough coffee yet to have coherent discussion about this. :smile:
 
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lisab said:
"Cute" describes a male who is nice looking but not a mature man yet.

That means beign not nice looking and not mature I don't qualify.
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
You could probably better describe it as "innocent" versus... "not so innocent" ("slutty" probably carries too much of a negative connotation). At least I think this describes better what is going on in the average male's mind.

The OP seems to think that men prefer the "not so innocent" type. I think that this is more a matter of them broadcasting a more 'sexual' (in men's minds) message than their counterparts. They tend to turn more heads with a short skirt, boldness, aggressiveness, ect. "Innocent" tends to be more shy, demure, coy, ect. They tend to be less obvious and many men may feel they are not as approachable so they tend to receive less direct attention. Its a stereotype that you are supposed to be more gentle with "innocent" women and more aggressive with "not so innocent" women. I think this is probably why it may seem that "hot" women get more attention.

I disagree. It's really more of a physical characteristic. To somewhat oversimplify, cute=nice face, hot=nice body.
 
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GeorginaS said:
... And, further, thinks that blanket assumptions apply vis the question of said hotness and cuteness...

Oooh, I agree! The blanket assumption test is a lot better than categorizing them as merely hot or cute.

That's the test based on what they assume the blanket is for, right?
 
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BobG said:
That's the test based on what they assume the blanket is for, right?

No, that's the test based on how they react when you remove the blanket.
 
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Galteeth said:
I disagree. It's really more of a physical characteristic. To somewhat oversimplify, cute=nice face, hot=nice body.

I disagree with you here. But all of this is personal preference so we could disagree with each other all day. There is no way to define someone as hot or cute since the definitions of hot and cute rely on the preference of the observer.
 
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Point of curiosity: what if the Gilligan's Island casting director had decided to switch things and cast Dawn Wells as Ginger and Tina Louise as Mary Ann? Would it have worked? I think Dawn could have played Ginger fairly well, but I don't think Tina could pull off the role of Mary Ann. Maybe cute can go to hot more easily than hot can go to cute?
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Point of curiosity: what if the Gilligan's Island casting director had decided to switch things and cast Dawn Wells as Ginger and Tina Louise as Mary Ann? Would it have worked? I think Dawn could have played Ginger fairly well, but I don't think Tina could pull off the role of Mary Ann. Maybe cute can go to hot more easily than hot can go to cute?
Sounds like the kind of unrigorous speculation that is only going to get the thread locked.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Point of curiosity: what if the Gilligan's Island casting director had decided to switch things and cast Dawn Wells as Ginger and Tina Louise as Mary Ann? Would it have worked? I think Dawn could have played Ginger fairly well, but I don't think Tina could pull off the role of Mary Ann. Maybe cute can go to hot more easily than hot can go to cute?

Do you have any peer reviewed studies to back that up?
 
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GeorginaS said:
Do you have any peer reviewed studies to back that up?

Um, no.. it was just a thought experiment. Clearly, I've gone crackpot. I'll go infractionate myself now.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
She's totally hot. Which should confuse Georgina. But the fact is "hot" can be used to describe any sexually attractive girl. A girl's hotness may only have to be distinguished as the cute variety when she's being compared to a girl whose hotness is of the hot variety.

Yes. So perhaps the labels should be changed to:
cute and sexy.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Yes. So perhaps the labels should be changed to:
cute and sexy.

Well, as BobG pointed out, hot is all about the blankets. So...

Have we answered the question yet? Has someone's love life been improved?
 
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GeorginaS said:
SA, I understand what's suggested and what's implied by the pigeonholes; I don't agree with the idea of universality of appeal (then again, I'm female), and I don't agree with media that reinforce the ideas. Grease is a great example. I'm not a fan of twisting oneself into a pretzel to fit someone else's idea of desirability. And I'm not a fan of desirability being so narrowly defined, and I further don't believe in the narrowness of that supposed definition. And I don't think I've had enough coffee yet to have coherent discussion about this. :smile:
Sorry, I figure you are aware of these sorts of distinctions and stereotypes. I was explaining more to talk out my line of reasoning as to why the OP may believe in the universality of his opinion. I also think that the two classifications are a bit limited and that many women may fit in both.


Galteeth said:
I disagree. It's really more of a physical characteristic. To somewhat oversimplify, cute=nice face, hot=nice body.
Well I agree that it is most often primarily a superficial distinction and it is true that "cute" usually implies certain facial characteristics and "hot" generally implies a nice figure but I think that is rather limited. I think that the clothes and manner of carrying oneself contributes greatly. I have known women with stereotypically "cute" characteristics that had nice figures and generally dressed and carried themselves in a manner that made most people perceive them as being in the "hot" category. I've also met women with faces and figures that would place them easily in the "hot" category that dressed and acted in a manner that led most people to perceive them as "cute". Many of both types would cross over back and forth depending on their mood.

Once I met a woman at a pool hall. She was dressed up in a tight slinky dress with red lips and her hair in a sexy upsweep. The next day we met for coffee and she was wearing baggy pants, a t-shirt, her hair in pigtails plastered to the sides of her head under a beanie, and no make-up. "Hot" to "cute" with a simple change of clothes.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Point of curiosity: what if the Gilligan's Island casting director had decided to switch things and cast Dawn Wells as Ginger and Tina Louise as Mary Ann? Would it have worked? I think Dawn could have played Ginger fairly well, but I don't think Tina could pull off the role of Mary Ann. Maybe cute can go to hot more easily than hot can go to cute?

Dawn Wells spent most of her career performing in plays and there aren't as wide a variety of pictures available of her. Generally just Gilligan's Island photos, a few public appearance photos, a few publicity photos and a few mug shots.

But, I agree that the "cute" look is kind of hard for Tina Louise to pull off. At best, she seems to be able to pull off the dumb, cute look as opposed to the cute person with a brain.

http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/y/7/y798coid2ggwwgd.jpg

Louise is much better at being just plain hot (especially once freed of the caricature she portrayed in Gilligan's Island)

http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/0/w/0w75flmux8aqlfuw.jpg

http://www.fanpix.net/gallery/tina-louise-pictures.htm

Interestingly, when Dawn Wells (Mary Ann) was arrested for marijuana, the frequency of internet searches for her name increased 5,860%. That might seem a natural reaction to her suddenly being in the news, but Wells's arrest resulted in an increase of 13,076% for Tina Louise (Ginger).

Mary Ann gets arrested and it increases internet searches for Ginger more than twice as much as it increases internet searches for Mary Ann. (http://www.daviddalka.com/createval...ands-affect-search-choiceginger-and-mary-ann/)

Dawn Wells was a lot less popular among the other cast members than Tina Louise, as well. Of course, Wells was the last cast member signed and received a better deal than the other cast members. The others didn't receive much money (if any) from subsequent reruns in syndication. Wells made money off that show for decades.
 
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Why are there no questions about whether women prefer smart guys or hot guys? Which do women prefer - the original professor (John Gabriel) from the pilot or the "new" professor (Russell Johnson) hired for the actual series?

John Gabriel (you can tell he's a professor because his shirt is unbuttoned to his navel):
pilot.jpg


Russell Johnson
professor.jpg



(By the way, that's the original Ginger, the practical brunette, and the original Bunny, the dizzy blonde, that were in the pilot episode in place of Ginger and Mary Ann.)
 
  • #48


BobG said:
Why are there no questions about whether women prefer smart guys or hot guys?

Because there doesn't seem to be any general mystification about the correct answer?
 
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Math Is Hard said:
I'll go infractionate myself now.

You'll do WHAT to yourself now?

You're just determined to get this thread locked, Missy!





("Thought experiment"? Hmmm. Apt term, really.)
 
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Cute girls and hot girls are the same but that picture of the cute girl was hot I am mean cute
 
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