Why do oceans look blue from orbit?

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The discussion centers on the question of why oceans appear deep blue when viewed from orbit, exploring various explanations related to light absorption, scattering, and perception. Participants examine the differences in appearance between the ocean and the atmosphere from this perspective, as well as the implications of color perception in different contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that oceans appear blue due to the absorption of longer wavelengths of light, which leads to predominantly blue backscattering from the water.
  • Another participant notes that the atmosphere does not absorb much light, which affects how blue it appears from orbit compared to the ocean.
  • Raman scattering is mentioned as a potential factor influencing the color of the ocean, with a link provided for further reading.
  • Some participants discuss the subjective nature of color perception, questioning whether shallow bodies of water would exhibit blue hues.
  • There is a reference to literary descriptions of the ocean, such as "Homer's wine dark seas," suggesting cultural interpretations of color.
  • One participant emphasizes that color perception is subjective and influenced by context, noting that colors like those seen in a rainbow or sunset may not represent high saturation.
  • Discussion includes the idea that the appearance of blue in ice differs from that in shallow water, raising questions about the conditions under which blue is perceived.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the reasons behind the ocean's blue appearance, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Multiple competing ideas about light absorption, scattering, and subjective perception remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific assumptions about light behavior in water and atmospheric conditions, which are not fully resolved in the discussion. The subjective nature of color perception is also acknowledged but not definitively addressed.

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This is something that one seldom stops to think about, but I suddenly thought of it myself: Why do oceans look deep blue when photographed from orbit?

Oceans look blue when looked from the shore because they are reflecting the sky... But the atmosphere doesn't look deep blue when photographed from orbit! Surely if the atmosphere were deep blue when looked from this perspective, then eg. clouds would be heavily blue-tinted, yet they are white in all the photographs (with, perhaps, at most a very, very slight and faint bluish tint to them). Also all the land would look like looked through a blue filter.

If oceans are reflecting the sky and that's why they look deep blue from orbit, that would mean that the atmosphere looks deep blue only when looked from one side, but not the other. This seems incomprehensible.
 
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The reflectivity of the ocean is quite low (compare the clouds and the water in typical images) because most of the light energy is absorbed; what you see is the result of different levels of absorption for different wavelengths. Longer wavelengths are absorbed in water so the light that's backscattered from the oceans will be predominantly blue.
The atmosphere itself doesn't absorb much light so any effect is slight. The blue sky that we see from Earth is, in fact, not 'very blue'; it has plenty of the longer wavelengths in it (Research Rayleigh scattering) but, psychologically, we see the bluish colour as a strong blue.
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the atmosphere looks deep blue only when looked from one side, but not the other.
Our appreciation of the colour is based on the context. Viewing from the surface, we see the sky with black space behind it. Viewed from space, the background (land and sea) is bright and it swamps any sensation of colour from the whispy atmosphere. This is a bit like the way a one way mirror works although it transmits the same amount of light both ways.
 
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When you are up close to the ocean as on a boat some waters have a define purple hue. Consider Homer's "wine dark seas"
 
So, water looks blue, because it's blue. Got it.
 
Chiron2 said:
So, water looks blue, because it's blue. Got it.
Uh ... if you fill a shallow pan with either fresh water or saltwater would you expect to see any blue?
 
If there was enough of it!
 
phinds said:
Uh ... if you fill a shallow pan with either fresh water or saltwater would you expect to see any blue?
A block of ice looks blue, but not an ice cube...
 
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Chiron2 said:
So, water looks blue, because it's blue. Got it.
That's as good a reason as any. Colour is totally subjective or we wouldn't be impressed by the feeble colours on a rainbow or a blue sky or the 'red' sunset. They would all measure as low saturation colours.

You don't need to dive to much of a depth in order to see the way red wavelengths are absorbed preferentially.
 
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Chiron2 said:
A block of ice looks blue, but not an ice cube...
If it looks blue the object is reflecting bluer wavelengths into your retina. The pigments there are more responsive in this wavelength.
From space? Same thing I guess, blue green reflected redder longer absorbed
 

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