Why do we need a voltage regulator here?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of a voltage regulator in a circuit utilizing an LM311 voltage comparator for measuring inductance. The LM311 operates as an oscillator, with its frequency determined by the inductor and capacitor values. A 7805 voltage regulator is employed to maintain a stable 5V output from a higher voltage source, requiring at least 7V input for proper regulation. The circuit also incorporates a PIC 16F628 microcontroller, which must be programmed to function correctly.

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Neyolight
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Hi all

Here is the circuit that I will refer to: LINK : http://electronics-diy.com/lc_meter.php

Ok my first question, Why do we need a voltage comparator (LM311) there? A voltage comparator compare the + and - voltages and output the difference??

What I want to do is, measure the inductance of the L and then send that value to a computer for further analysis.

Thanks o:)
 
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The LM311 is working as an oscillator in this circuit and the frequency depends on the values of the inductor and capacitor in the circuit between pins 2 and 3.

The output is taken to the microprocessor from pin 7, so you could take this output to your computer if you wished. You would have to calibrate the output yourself, but the component values may be directly related to the output frequency.

The original kit has a programmed PIC 16F628 chip in it, so an unprogrammed one would not work.

It does seem a bit overpriced, though.
You could get one of these:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LCR-Inductance-Capacitance-Multimeter-Meter-RCL-M05-/300548703185?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item45fa1943d1
for about $16.
 
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Thanks for that vk6kro :smile:

Im still a bit confused as to how that circuit works. Let me divide that circuit into 3 parts:

1) Oscillator: Does this provide the alternating current the LC circuit needs to oscillate at resonant frequency? Does it also modify the frequency as the L in the LC circuit changes?

2) Battery : Circuit is using a 5V DC battery I believe

3) LC circuit
 
Neyolight said:
Thanks for that vk6kro :smile:

2) Battery : Circuit is using a 5V DC battery I believe

No its most likely using a 9V battery There's a 5V regulator there to provide a stable 5V for the osc cct and the PIC processor etc. The 7805 regulator needs at least 2V headroom for it to regulate correctly

cheers
Dave
 
Neyolight said:
Thanks for that vk6kro :smile:

Im still a bit confused as to how that circuit works. Let me divide that circuit into 3 parts:

1) Oscillator: Does this provide the alternating current the LC circuit needs to oscillate at resonant frequency? Does it also modify the frequency as the L in the LC circuit changes?

2) Battery : Circuit is using a 5V DC battery I believe

3) LC circuit

The oscillator uses a LM311 with positive feedback, but the feedback happens at the resonant frequency of the tuned circuit formed by the external L or C and carefully chosen internal components.

So, the oscillation happens only at the resonant frequency of the tuned circuit.

The oscillator is the entire combined LC circuit and the comparator chip.

The LM7805 chip produces 5 volts out but it must have about 7 volts minimum input to produce 5 volts out.
So, the supply can be 7 volts, 8 volts, 9 volts or anything up to about 37 volts which is the maximum rating of the LM7805. The chip will waste more power and get hotter with higher voltages.

There is a clearer diagram in this article and it may be easier to see how the oscillator works:
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_110500/article.html
 

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