Why Does Integration Differ Between Electric Fields of a Disk and a Line Charge?

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The discussion revolves around the differences in integrating electric fields for a ring versus a line charge. The user calculated the electric field for a ring and reached a complex expression, but was confused by the book's integration approach using Δq. They noted that while integrating for a line charge required substituting ΔQ with a linear density, the book treated Δq differently for the ring. The conversation highlights the geometric considerations that influence integration methods, emphasizing the need for understanding charge distributions in different contexts. Ultimately, visualizing the geometry of the charge distributions can clarify these integration techniques.
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Homework Statement



I am suppose to find an expression for the electric field of a ring.

Homework Equations



E =\frac{Kq}{r^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated my results and I reached up to this:

\frac{Kx\Delta q}{(R^2 + x^2)}^{3/2} where R = radius, x = distance, K = constant, q = charge.

And then I looked at my book and noticed they integrated with respect to \Delta q which got me confused because when I calculated the electric field due to a line charge \Delta q it wasn't considered a geometric property. The final expression the book gave \frac{Kx q}{(R^2 + x^2)}^{3/2}.

How come they can integrate with respect to \Delta q in this case but not a line charge?

For example, when I was measuring the electric field of a line of charge I got the expression \sum \frac{d \Delta Q}{(y_1^2 + d^2)^{3/2}} but with that expression I couldn't integrate over \Delta Q because the book said it is not a geometric quantity so I had to replace \Delta Q with \Delta Q = Q/L \Delta y. I don't understand why we had to change it with the field of a line but not with a disk?

The book did the same thing with an electric field of a ring as they did with the line of charge by replacing \Delta Q with the density over the surface area 2r\pi dr.
 
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I suppose you talk about a disk ( on your first statement you talk about "ring"). For the ring you have the field of a line so you multiply your linear density with λdx = λrdθ. Now you have a surface with density σ. So dq = σda = σ(2πrdr).
Draw a diagram and you will see the validity of that. look the area that represents 2πrdr
 
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