Why does movement in waves produce harmonics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of harmonics in wave motion, particularly in the context of vibrating strings and other wave systems. Participants explore the relationship between harmonics, resonance, and the mathematical framework of Fourier decomposition, as well as the physical implications of these concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that harmonics are a characteristic of all waves and relate to how energy propagates along a wave.
  • Others argue that harmonics are not arbitrary and represent real physical phenomena, specifically in the context of standing waves.
  • A participant suggests that the concept of resonance is key to understanding why harmonics occur, linking it to periodic solutions of differential equations.
  • It is mentioned that systems oscillate most naturally at certain frequencies, with harmonics being integer multiples of these natural frequencies.
  • One participant provides an example involving guitar strings, explaining how only harmonic frequencies survive after initial excitation.
  • A later reply indicates that harmonics can also be observed in water waves, particularly in two-dimensional standing waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether harmonics are arbitrary or represent real physical phenomena. The discussion includes both mathematical and physical perspectives, and no consensus is reached regarding the nature of harmonics.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the mathematical treatment of waves and the physical characteristics of resonance are present but not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of how harmonics manifest across different types of waves.

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Why do strings, etc vibrate in harmonics?

Is it a characteristic of all waves, a consequence of the way energy propagates along a wave? If so, how?
 
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That's just a mathematical way to deal with arbitrary waves called Fourier decomposition
 
But harmonics aren't arbitrary, are they?
 
netheril96 said:
That's just a mathematical way to deal with arbitrary waves called Fourier decomposition

I have to disagree. Harmonics in standing waves is a very real physical phenomena. It is NOT an arbitrary mathematical description.

To answer the OP's question, I think the answer is related to resonance. If you've taken differential equations: Say you have a system that can be described using a non-homogenous second order differential equation for example, and the natural solutions are periodic. If your forcing function is periodic, and the frequency is equal to or is an integer multiple of the natural period, the resulting solution has a larger amplitude. This is called resonance.

If you haven't taken differential equations, you will have to take my word for it, that often a system will have a frequency that if oscillates most naturally. Then oscillations with frequencies that are integer multiples of this "natural" frequency will be more sustainable in the system. For example, if you have a guitar string and you pick the string at t=0, you will be giving the string all sorts of frequencies to begin with, but after a relatively short time, only the harmonic frequencies (including the fundamental frequency of course) will survive. (These harmonic frequencies also correspond to the standing wave solutions.)

I think you should be able to obtain harmonics in the oscillation of water waves by creating 2d standing waves, e.g. water in a round bowl.

Hope this helps
 
Thanks eddiemon. Yes, it did help.:)
 

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