Why Does She Avoid Eye Contact After Our Great Conversation?

[verty]

For me, the problem was that I didn't really want to ask them out. I mean, I wanted to but I didn't. I think half the problem is deciding what one wants.

 

[Robert Mak]

Man! This is the funniest thread yet! You know...:D

lol, i don't want to ask her out, because she study all the day (lol). And with that argument, I am afraid that she would reject.

 

[moose]

I hope girls know that every single guy I have ever known has ranked some girl with a number at some point. It's nothing degrading at all. It's identical to a girl saying "he's cute", or "that guy's hot", or whatever.

BTW: I define my 10 to be the most attractive looking girl I've ever seen in my life. So my definition of 10 does sometimes change... My scale is also on an exponential scale. A girl with a 5 is attractive. A girl with a 6 is quite easy on the eyes. A 7 means the girl is hotttt. An 8 is like a WOAH and are rather rare. A 9 is extremely rare and these are generally the hottest girls you see. A 10 is THE hottest girl you've ever seen in your life.

I kinda wonder how other guys' systems work.

Why are girls offended by a number? It's the same as saying the phrase associated with it. In my system, intelligence and personality affects it quite a bit. I would never give a girl a 10 without knowing her.

 

[Cyrus]

lol, kids and their numbering system. Cute.

I don't rate women with numbers. Not because its disrepectful, but because I find it stupid and pointless. Ok, so you give her a 7, now what. What the hell does it matter?

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

lol, i don't want to ask her out, because she study all the day (lol). And with that argument, I am afraid that she would reject.

Why would it matter if she rejects you?

You want to date her right? The only way to get a date with her is to ask, and if she rejects your offer, then nothing is changed. (As long as you don't take it too hard or something).

A rejection should not be viewed as a bad thing in my oppinion, it just simply means that she is not interested in you, and then you know, and you can move on.

 

[Robert Mak]

Does the girls are impressioned with the intelligence?
She study mathematics all the day, but I am better than her...

 

[DaveC426913]

Does the girls are impressioned with the intelligence?
She study mathematics all the day, but I am better than her...

Women, forgive my presumption for speaking for you but,

it is my impression that women are impressed by authenticity, and turned off by posturing.

The answer to your question is no.

Be yourself above all else.

 

[Cyrus]

Does the girls are impressioned with the intelligence?
She study mathematics all the day, but I am better than her...

Yes, rub it in her face an do a "im better than you at math dance"

 

[Moonbear]

Women, forgive my presumption for speaking for you but,

it is my impression that women are impressed by authenticity, and turned off by posturing.

The answer to your question is no.

Be yourself above all else.

You're officially allowed to speak on our behalf.

And, I just can't see how that would work at all..."You study all the time for math, but I'm still doing better than you in the class. Wanna go out?" Robert, do you have a death wish? Because, unless you want to take a calculus text to the back of the head, I suggest you avoid that approach.

I'm confused by this whole thread...she's friendly but shy, you want to go out with her, but she had a boyfriend and doesn't now, and she studies all the time, so you don't want to go out with her, but you are still doing better in the class than her and you want to know if that would impress her so you can go out with her.

I suggest figuring out what you really want first. Do you or do you not want to go out with her? And if so, why? Is it because you find her pretty, or interesting, or because she's being a bit elusive and you just want the challenge, but then will lose interest as soon as she says yes?

I'm laughing at all the rationalizations for number systems above too. Moose, I think you've put WAY too much effort into defining the various categories. With any more factors added in, you'll need to enter all the variables into a computer so it can spit out a number for you. It can all be so much simpler with just a binary system: 0=not interested and 1=interested. You can skip the numbers even. What does the rest matter? If you meet a 7, are you going to tell her she's gone the moment a 7.5 comes along?

 

[JasonRox]

I hope girls know that every single guy I have ever known has ranked some girl with a number at some point. It's nothing degrading at all. It's identical to a girl saying "he's cute", or "that guy's hot", or whatever.

BTW: I define my 10 to be the most attractive looking girl I've ever seen in my life. So my definition of 10 does sometimes change... My scale is also on an exponential scale. A girl with a 5 is attractive. A girl with a 6 is quite easy on the eyes. A 7 means the girl is hotttt. An 8 is like a WOAH and are rather rare. A 9 is extremely rare and these are generally the hottest girls you see. A 10 is THE hottest girl you've ever seen in your life.

I kinda wonder how other guys' systems work.

Why are girls offended by a number? It's the same as saying the phrase associated with it. In my system, intelligence and personality affects it quite a bit. I would never give a girl a 10 without knowing her.

Mine is completely different!

A 5 is something I wouldn't touch. The guys I talk to all seem to have a similar system. Although there are disagreements because some people are attracted to different people, but in the end, if a guy says 8 or above, I know it's good for any guy.

Yeah, 5 isn't attractive. I'd say the attractiveness begins at 7. And it seems as though 6 is average. So, like 5 is below average.

Sounds bad, but I know girls to the same thing. Maybe not with numbers, but they certainly do something simliar.

 

[tehno]

What's 2 on your scale?
I don't dare ask what's 1...

 

[radou]

BTW: I define my 10 to be the most attractive looking girl I've ever seen in my life. So my definition of 10 does sometimes change... My scale is also on an exponential scale. A girl with a 5 is attractive. A girl with a 6 is quite easy on the eyes. A 7 means the girl is hotttt. An 8 is like a WOAH and are rather rare. A 9 is extremely rare and these are generally the hottest girls you see. A 10 is THE hottest girl you've ever seen in your life.

I don't agree with the numbering system, unless it applies to bra size.

 

[tehno]

I don't agree with the numbering system, unless it applies to bra size.

I don't dare ask what 1 means for bra size too.:shy:

 

[cristo]

I don't agree with the numbering system

You've really never rated a girl using a numbering system?

unless it applies to bra size.

Well, I suppose that's as good a numbering system as any!

 

[radou]

I don't dare ask what 1 means for bra size too.:shy:

As a matter of fact, me neither.

 

[radou]

You've really never rated a girl using a numbering system?

I didn't say that.

 

[cristo]

I didn't say that.

Ahh, I see, you just don't agree with it!

 

[tehno]

Well if ordinary guys quite sometimes use such numbering for girls ,can you imagine what male mathematicians do?

 

[Mike628]

Shy girls are very secretive usually b/c they have something to hide or are just very to themselves, so they need some one to open up to, take her out on a date, and be as charming as you can so she'll open up to you, and once that happens, you got her. =]

 

[radou]

Well if ordinary guys quite sometimes use such numbering for girls ,can you imagine what male mathematicians do?

Probably the same thing.

 

[JasonRox]

What's 2 on your scale?
I don't dare ask what's 1...

We don't normally talk about anything below 5.

 

[Math Is Hard]

"I had a virgin once. I had to go to Guatamala for her. She was blind in one eye, and she had a stuffed alligator that said 'Welcome to Miami Beach'."
- obscure movie reference (2 full points if you get it)

I think we need a hint, Dave!

 

[Astronuc]

Well I am in the first (university) year, so i met a girl called "beta". So i introduced myself to beta and we talked like 1 hour and she laugh, etc. so we had a good conversation.

And in the next days, we crossed sometimes in the path, and she just go away without saying nothing. WTF is that...

So i had the courage again to go and talk to her again, so when i talked to her she just talk, but not seeing my eyes...

What should i do?
her behaviour is a shy girl, likes to study, silent in the class, and in the class she only had 1 friend.

I need help quicky! (i had 18 years old and she too)

Go talk to her again, and ask her out.

If that doesn't work, tell her that you will pick up Friday at 1800 (6 pm) and take her a reasonably nice place to eat. Don't keep her out late, and walk her to the door.

Don't forget to get her phone number and address.

If she says absolutely not! Move on.

 

[J77]

Me and some of my mates had actions which would rate girls in the pub - but most are x-rated

 

[chaoseverlasting]

You're officially allowed to speak on our behalf.

And, I just can't see how that would work at all..."You study all the time for math, but I'm still doing better than you in the class. Wanna go out?" Robert, do you have a death wish? Because, unless you want to take a calculus text to the back of the head, I suggest you avoid that approach.

I'm confused by this whole thread...she's friendly but shy, you want to go out with her, but she had a boyfriend and doesn't now, and she studies all the time, so you don't want to go out with her, but you are still doing better in the class than her and you want to know if that would impress her so you can go out with her.

LOL! Girls are so confused in life! I mean, the thread's pretty simple to follow, do gals like to make life difficult?

 

[chaoseverlasting]

Shy girls are ... be as charming as you can so she'll open up to you, and once that happens, you got her. =]

Hehe, totally dude. Read up some jokes or something... get her to laugh...

 

[hover]

take her a reasonably nice place to eat.

McDonalds lol

 

[rhuthwaite]

read up on jokes? why not let natural humour take its course? People are the funniest when it isn't forced humour

 

[DaveC426913]

I don't agree with the numbering system, unless it applies to bra size.

We don't normally talk about anything below 5.

Shouldn't it always result in an even number - a number divisible by 2?

 

[rhuthwaite]

I don't think I like the ranking system either, it could really damage a girls self esteem (which after its gone through all the critisms of girls is fairly low usually any way)

 

[radou]

I don't think I like the ranking system either, it could really damage a girls self esteem (which after its gone through all the critisms of girls is fairly low usually any way)

The girl criticism is a good point. You reminded me of a few 'girl-talks' i ear-witnessed recently. Boy, girls/women sure can be tough on each other.

 

[rhuthwaite]

more than you know

 

[Number2Pencil]

just do what i do and TELL the girl she's going on a date with you...

it shows you can take charge, are confident, and are a jerk...3 things girls go nuts over

okay I've only done it once...but it did work

 

[Math Is Hard]

more than you know

Yes, indeed. And to take it down one more level, we're pretty hard on ourselves. Perhaps to prepare ourselves for the more punishing levels coming up.
Social "power" is all about who gets to do the judging and who gets judged.

 

[J77]

McDonalds lol

Do you have GLC over in the US?

I'll give you a rose, pull out your chair when we eat
**** I can't, 'cos In McDonalds it's a bolted seat
Don't matter 'cos I'm here with you
With a medium value meal and a chocolate sundae too
Later on I'll come and help you sign on
I'll stare into your eyes, the housing benefits gone wrong
Don't worry baby it won't take too long
I'm just sitting, I'm just waiting, I'm just writing this song
You know that, time passes and I'm loving every second
Buying chips for you is as lovely as I reckoned
You're Victoria Spice, I'm David Beckham
If you were Dellboy, I'd be the streets of Peckham
Why don't you come to me, why can't you see
My love for you is like Matt Bolan to a tree

Safe as!

 

[Robert Mak]

Today i expressed my feelings to her, She told me that; she just want to meet new friends and she is still hurt by her boyfriend.
I feel good, that now i can continue to achieve my goals.
Sometimes I am like obsessed to find the answer.
And thanks for the help!

 

[radou]

Today i expressed my feelings to her, She told me that; she just want to meet new friends and she is still hurt by her boyfriend.
I feel good, that now i can continue to achieve my goals.
Sometimes I am like obsessed to find the answer.
And thanks for the help!

They always just want to meet new friends, and they're always still hurt by their boyfriends.

Just kidding. Thumbs up, Robert & good luck!

 

[Robert Mak]

They always just want to meet new friends, and they're always still hurt by their boyfriends.

Indeed... yeah always

 

[Moonbear]

They always just want to meet new friends, and they're always still hurt by their boyfriends.

Unfortunately, yeah, that's pretty much how it goes...but that "hurt" goes away really quickly if you meet someone you really want to date, so just wanting to meet new friends is usually exactly what it means.

 

[Robert Mak]

Should i still talk to her?, cause she's in my class... or should i never talk to her?

 

[Moonbear]

Should i still talk to her?, cause she's in my class... or should i never talk to her?

If you want to keep talking to her, why not? You never know, her attitude might change once she gets to know you better...just don't count on it and get your heart broken over it.

 

[radou]

... or should i never talk to her?

That wouldn't exactly be the wisest choice.

 

[Robert Mak]

Today i got a feeling of revenge toward her and i don't know why?
Do you experience that?

 

[verty]

What is a feeling of revenge?

 

[cristo]

Today i got a feeling of revenge toward her and i don't know why?
Do you experience that?

Why do you want to seek revenge against her; the poor girl's not done anything to you! You wanted to be more than friends, but she told you straight that she doesn't. She's been honest with you, and hasn't led you on or anything.

I think you need to let this one go, and just be friends with her, and stop obsessing over a girl you hardly know!

 

[radou]

I think you need to let this one go, and just be friends with her...

..or don't, since that doesn't always work out. But on the other side, friendship can lead to a relationship. It all depends.

 

[cristo]

..or don't, since that doesn't always work out.

Very true, perhaps I should rephrase, and say that he should let it go, and just be friendly towards her, and see if a friendship does happen.

But on the other side, friendship can lead to a relationship. It all depends.

I'm not sure whether this happens very often, at least not in my experience. Either way though, he needs to let go, since if he approaches a friendship whilst really wanting a relationship, I very much doubt it will work!

 

[radou]

I'm not sure whether this happens very often, at least not in my experience. Either way though, he needs to let go, since if he approaches a friendship whilst really wanting a relationship, I very much doubt it will work!

I completely agree.

 

[Moonbear]

Why do you want to seek revenge against her; the poor girl's not done anything to you! You wanted to be more than friends, but she told you straight that she doesn't. She's been honest with you, and hasn't led you on or anything.

I think you need to let this one go, and just be friends with her, and stop obsessing over a girl you hardly know!

Geez, if he's obsessing about her to the point of feeling like he wants revenge for being rejected, maybe he shouldn't try being friends with her...just stay away! That's not at all normal. Angry, or hurt, sure, normal reactions, but desiring revenge? That sounds...well, pathological. Robert, if you're feeling that extreme of a reaction to being turned down by someone you didn't even know yet, you probably should talk to someone about that. That's not a healthy response at all. Save the feelings of revenge for the long-term girlfriend who cheats on you and dumps you for the other guy (still don't act on them).

 

[cristo]

Geez, if he's obsessing about her to the point of feeling like he wants revenge for being rejected, maybe he shouldn't try being friends with her...just stay away! That's not at all normal. Angry, or hurt, sure, normal reactions, but desiring revenge? That sounds...well, pathological. Robert, if you're feeling that extreme of a reaction to being turned down by someone you didn't even know yet, you probably should talk to someone about that. That's not a healthy response at all. Save the feelings of revenge for the long-term girlfriend who cheats on you and dumps you for the other guy (still don't act on them).

I agree, it is abnormal to be feeling like he wants revenge for girl rejecting him, and your advice is good; to stay away while he's feeling like this. I suspect (/hope) that this is just an overexaggeration, and he doesn't feel like seeking revenge, but just feels angry.

Robert, I think you should just steer clear for a while, and maybe try chatting to her when you've got over this upset and anger. After all, the fact that she was honest with you shows that she's a decent girl! However, if you actually are feeling like seeking revenge, then I second Moonbear; this is not normal, and you should talk to someone about this. IF you're feeling like that over a girl you hardly know, I dread to think what will happen in the future when you break up with a girl who you've been with for a long time. You need to sort out these feelings now, and not wait for that time to come!