Why is Matter Visible Despite Empty Space?

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The discussion centers on the nature of atomic structure and the visibility of matter. It highlights that over 99.9% of an atom's mass is in the nucleus, yet matter is visible because photons interact with the electron shells surrounding the nucleus, not the nucleus itself. This interaction is crucial for visibility and physical touch. The inability to push a hand through a solid object, like a table, is explained by the repulsive forces between electron shells of the atoms in the hand and the table. The concept of electron orbitals is clarified; they are not fixed orbits but rather probability clouds that define where electrons may be found. This understanding emphasizes that while atoms are mostly empty space, the interactions at the electron level prevent physical penetration of solid objects.
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If over 99.9% of an atom's mass is concentrated in the nucleus, the rest being "empty", why is matter (simply composed of atoms) clearly visible, rather than being largely invisible?

Also, why can't I move my hand through a solid table? Where is this empty space constituting the majority of the table?

Might be a silly question, but it's just a random thought that struck me :smile:
 
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saln1 said:
If over 99.9% of an atom's mass is concentrated in the nucleus, the rest being "empty", why is matter (simply composed of atoms) clearly visible, rather than being largely invisible?
We see via photons. Photons interact with the electron shell, not with the nucleus.

saln1 said:
Also, why can't I move my hand through a solid table? Where is this empty space constituting the majority of the table?
Same thing. We physically interact with the electron shells, not with the nucleus.

Answer this question: why can I not push a 2x4 through a basketball, even though the basketball is mostly empty space?
 
DaveC426913 said:
We see via photons. Photons interact with the electron shell, not with the nucleus.


Same thing. We physically interact with the electron shells, not with the nucleus.

Answer this question: why can I not push a 2x4 through a basketball, even though the basketball is mostly empty space?

Like forces repel each other! Nothing ever touches, it only comes close to touching!
 
DaveC426913 said:
We physically interact with the electron shells

Can you explain physically why this is? Isn't the shell just composed of electrons orbiting the nucleus, rather than being an impenetrable solid?

DaveC426913 said:
Answer this question: why can I not push a 2x4 through a basketball, even though the basketball is mostly empty space?

As above
 
The orbit analogy is inept and obsolete.
 
saln1 said:
Can you explain physically why this is? Isn't the shell just composed of electrons orbiting the nucleus, rather than being an impenetrable solid?



As above
The electrons form an orbital - a cloud; this is not the same as an orbit. An orbital is simply a function that defines the probability of finding an elelctron in a certain place if we go to look for it. It says absolutely nothing about what the electron is doing when we are not looking for it.


While not really imprenetrable, the electrons are what the photons interact with. it is also what the electron orbitals in the atoms of your hand interact with when you try to touch something.
 
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