Why Is My Calculation Result for Acceleration Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around a calculation of acceleration involving forces such as spring force and friction. The original poster expresses confusion regarding their calculated result compared to the expected answer.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between spring force and tension, questioning whether the spring force acts in the same direction as tension when extended. They also discuss the nature of forces when a spring is stretched or compressed.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions about the direction of forces related to the spring and tension. Some guidance is offered regarding the behavior of springs under tension and compression, but no consensus has been reached on the original calculation error.

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The original poster's calculations and the specific parameters of the problem, such as the spring extension, are noted, but there is a lack of clarity on the overall setup and definitions being used.

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In another set up where mass of block A is 𝑚𝐴 = 10.0 kg and the mass of block B is 𝑚𝐵 =12.0 𝑘𝑔. A spring with constant𝑘 = 90 𝑁 / 𝑚 is attached to block A as shown. The incline plane is 𝜃 = 37∘ and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block A and theincline is 𝜇𝑘 = 0.30 as before. Block B is moving down and block A moving up the slope. (The magnitude of the spring force is
given by |𝐹𝑠𝑝| = 𝑘𝑥 where 𝑥 is the extension.)
Relevant Equations
For Ma(perpendicular) = FN - Magcos(titre) = 0
Ma (Parallel) = Fsp + T - Ffriction - Magsin(titre) = Ma(a)

For Mb: Mbg - T = Mb(a)
Fsp = 90 x 0.12 = 10.8
Ffriction = Magcos(titre) x 0.30
I got the answer 2.09ms2 when the correct answer is 1.11ms2. What am i doing wrong here?

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Isn't the spring force opposite to T?
 
Chestermiller said:
Isn't the spring force opposite to T?
But wouldn't the spring force push the block forward?
 
nicky670 said:
But wouldn't the spring force push the block forward?
It says the spring has an extension of 0.12m.
 
haruspex said:
It says the spring has an extension of 0.12m.
When the spring extends, wouldn't it exert a force in the same direction as the tension force?
 
nicky670 said:
When the spring extends, wouldn't it exert a force in the same direction as the tension force?
When you stretch a spring, doesn't it pull back on you in the opposite direction?
 
nicky670 said:
When the spring extends, wouldn't it exert a force in the same direction as the tension force?
Is an extended spring under tension or under compression?
 
Chestermiller said:
When you stretch a spring, doesn't it pull back on you in the opposite direction?
Oh, means to say when its extended it will have a tension pulling it back and if compressed there will be a force pushing the block forward?
 
haruspex said:
Is an extended spring under tension or under compression?
tension.
 
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nicky670 said:
Oh, means to say when its extended it will have a tension pulling it back and if compressed there will be a force pushing the block forward?
Yes.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.
Thank you haruspex :)
 

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