Why is my electromagnet's amperage fluctuating?

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The discussion revolves around the fluctuations in amperage observed in a homemade electromagnet powered by a DC supply. Participants explore potential causes for this behavior, including the characteristics of the power supply, the measuring instrument, and the materials used in the electromagnet's construction.

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Main Points Raised

  • Stephen reports fluctuating amperage readings when measuring the current through his electromagnet, questioning whether this is normal behavior or indicative of a problem with the power supply or the coil.
  • One participant suggests that basic digital multimeters (DMMs) often show fluctuations and that some power supplies may not provide a well-smoothed DC output.
  • Stephen notes that the magnetic pull of the electromagnet is stronger when powered by C batteries compared to the 12V DC power supply, despite the batteries having lower amperage, prompting further inquiry into the reasons behind this observation.
  • Another participant speculates that the DMM might be faulty or that there could be issues with connections or wiring. They also mention that power supplies may have a cut-off feature if the current exceeds certain limits.
  • Suggestions are made to avoid using batteries due to their short lifespan under high power draw and to consider using a soft iron core instead of a steel nail for better performance.
  • Concerns are raised about the insulation on the copper wire, with a possibility that damage to the insulation could affect performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the fluctuating amperage and the performance differences between the power supply and batteries. There is no consensus on the exact cause of the fluctuations or the strength of the electromagnet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential limitations related to the quality of the DMM, the characteristics of the power supply, and the materials used in the electromagnet, but these aspects remain unresolved.

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Hello all!

I have created a basic electromagnet using copper wire coiled around a nail. When I hook a DMM in series with the electromagnet and my 12v 3Amp DC power supply, the DMM shows that the amperage fluctuates. It will not come to a certain number or switch between two numbers that are very close together. It is almost like the current from the DC power supply is acting like AC current. Is it normal for the amperage to fluctuate so much? Does this happen because of the coil or is my power supply messed up?

Thanks.
Stephen
 
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The more basic DMMs tend to fluctuate and the more basic power supplies give a rectified D.C output but not very well smoothed out.
 
When I hook up my magnet to two C batteries the magnetic pull is much stronger than when I hook it up to my 12v 3 amp dc power supply. What?! The batteries are less amperage so it should be the other way around. Any ideas as to what's going on?

Thanks
Stephen
 
What?!.Thats my reaction also.I can only guess.
1.Perhaps your DMM is faulty or you had a poor connection or you wired it incorrectly.
2.An electromagnet can draw a large current and most power supplies have a cut out if the current goes too high and you have to wait for them to cool down before they can be reset.Was it possible that you tested your electromagnet when the power was off?The core being a nail and made of steel would have been turned into a permanent magnet by your previous experiments.
May I make a few suggestions
1.Try not to use batteries.Your electromagnet draws a lot of power,your batteries will last a short time and this can work out expensive.
2.Use a soft iron core instead of a steel nail.Soft iron is a temporary magnetic material and loses its magnetism when the power is switched off.I am assuming that your local school would loan you this if you cannot get it otherwise.
I have just thought of something else.What is the insulation on your copper wire like?If it is coated with varnish or something similar perhaps some of this got scraped off.
 

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