Why is Sodium Abbreviated "Na"?

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Sodium is represented by the symbol Na, derived from the Latin word "natrium." The naming and abbreviation of chemical elements are determined by the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC). While some participants expressed skepticism about the reliability of Wikipedia, others noted that it can provide accurate information on simple facts. The discussion also touched on the historical context of element naming, highlighting how symbols often originate from ancient languages, such as "Pb" for lead, which comes from the Latin "plumbum." This historical naming convention has led to discrepancies between element symbols and their modern names across different languages. The conversation included a lighthearted debate about the legitimacy of the term "googlable," with some participants humorously suggesting it is now an accepted word.
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Why is Sodium "Na"? Shouldn't it be called "So" or something like that? What is the process for deciding the abbreviations for elements?
 
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That's so easily googlable...
Wikipedia said:
Sodium is a chemical element with symbol Na (from Latin natrium)

For new elements, the naming is decided by IUPAC.
 
DrClaude said:
That's so easily googlable...For new elements, the naming is decided by IUPAC.
I didn't want to Google it, because I know from experience that Wikipedia can be a dark and unknowledgeable site sometimes. I posted the question(s) here in hopes that someone would know more (or at least be able to explain it better) than whoever wrote the page on Wikipedia.

Thank you for the information, though.

P.S. Is "googlable" an actual word yet?
 
IgnisAckerman said:
I didn't want to Google it, because I know from experience that Wikipedia can be a dark and unknowledgeable site sometimes. I posted the question(s) here in hopes that someone would know more (or at least be able to explain it better) than whoever wrote the page on Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is not that bad, at least when simple facts are concerned. Googling would also have given you many references other than Wikipedia.

IgnisAckerman said:
P.S. Is "googlable" an actual word yet?
Not according to Merriam-Webster or the OED. Only "google" as a verb seems to be accepted.
 
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IgnisAckerman said:
P.S. Is "googlable" an actual word yet?
It is now :woot:
 
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Natrium -> natron. Natron is the dry white sodium salts mixed (several different ones) residue in dry lake beds. Egyptians used it in the mummification process. Romans knew about it, hence the Latinized name, derived from Egyptian.

This discusses a possible origin for the word natrium in Middle Egyptian, but like any decent write up on the subject of Middle Egpytian language it is all over the place:
https://ancientneareast.org/2012/02/10/an-excursus-on-the-egyptian-word-ntr/
Do a forward find on 'natron'.
 
IgnisAckerman said:
P.S. Is "googlable" an actual word yet?

Perfectly cromulent!BoB
 
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The abbreviations and many of the names of the elements used in the nordic countries and in Germany, as opposed to France and England, where coined by Jöns Jakob Berzelius. Needless to say that this created a lot of dispute at the beginning of the 19th century.
Confer the book "Historical Studies in the Langauge of Chemistry" by M. P. Crosland.
 
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I don't know if they do still but I can remember, mnyah mnyah, when French texts were still insisting on writing Az for N.
 
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There are a number of elements which have symbols that don't match up with their modern names, most derived from ancient names for them. One in particular found its way into our language in a number of ways, And that is Pb for lead. The Pb stands for Plumbum, the ancient name for lead.
This is also why we call the water pipes "plumbing", as they used to use lead for that.
Since lead is heavy and it once was believed that heavy object fell faster, we also get the word plummet from this.
Lead weights hung from strings are called plum bobs. And these were used to make things were perfectly vertical or 'Plumb'. And since you could also lower them in the water to measure the distance to the bottom, they were used to "plumb" the depths.
and lastly if you ate too much of a particular fruit it lead to an "heaviness" in your bowels, they were named "Plums".
 
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Janus said:
There are a number of elements which have symbols that don't match up with their modern names, most derived from ancient names for them.
I would add that this depends on which "modern language" you consider. The names are not the same in every language, the symbols are ( I hope).

For example, symbols for Gold, Iron, Tungsten, Lead , Tin, Silver make perfect sense in romance languages, like in Romanian for example.
 
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DrClaude said:
That's so easily googlable...

I think you've invented a new word. It expresses the advice you was giving perfectly.
 
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