Why is the answer "No solution"?

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In summary, the problem is asking to solve 2x=1 in ℤ4, but because this is a modular problem, there is no solution. This is because the element 2 in ℤ4 does not have an inverse. Similarly, for a problem like 6x=5 in ℤ8, the equation is solvable if and only if 6 in ℤ8 has an inverse, which can be determined by finding the gcd of the numbers.
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Homework Statement


Solve 2x=1 in ℤ4.

Homework Equations


None.

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The answer is "No solution" but I don't know why. Because this is a modular problem, so 4+1=5 and 2x=5, x=5/2. But why the answer is no solution? Can anyone please explain?
 
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##\mathbb{Z}_4=\{0,1,2,3\}## so there are neither ##4## nor ##5## and certainly no ##\frac{5}{2}##. Have you tried to draw the multiplication table?
 
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So any answer you get with fractions, that means no solution?
 
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So any answer you get with fractions, that means no solution?
No. Formally a division is a multiplication with the inverse element. So whether a division is allowed or not, only depends on whether there is an inverse or not. An inverse element of, say ##a##, is the element ##x## that satisfies ##a\cdot x=1.## Such an element is unique, so we write ##x= a^{-1}## or - not so good - ##\frac{1}{a}##. The question behind the exercise is: Why doesn't ##2 \in \mathbb{Z}_4## have an inverse? E.g. ##3 \in \mathbb{Z}_4## has one, because ##3 \cdot 3 \equiv 9 \equiv 1 \operatorname{mod} 4##.
 
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And what about problem like 6x=5 in ℤ8?
 
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So any answer you get with fractions, that means no solution?
Well, no, they are asking for a solution in ##\mathbb Z_4 =\{0,1,2,3\}## with standard modular addition and multiplication and this does not include fractions.
 
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And what about problem like 6x=5 in ℤ8?
Consider more generally two cases.

##6\cdot 4 \equiv 0 \operatorname{mod} 8##. Now try to find out, whether such an element can have an inverse or not. What will happen if there is an element ##a## for which there are elements ##x,y## with ##a\cdot x = 0## and ##a\cdot y = 1##. Can this happen?

Now even if ##6 \in \mathbb{Z}_8## had no inverse, there could still have been an element ##x## with ##6\cdot x \equiv 5 \operatorname{mod} 8##. But we can solve it the same way, we would solve it with integers. If ##6## has no inverse, we will not be allowed to divide by ##6##. But ##5 \cdot 5 \equiv 25 \equiv 1 \operatorname{mod} 8## so we can divide by ##5##. The inverse element to ##5## is also ##5##, so
$$5 \cdot 6 \cdot x \equiv 5 \cdot 5 \equiv 1 \operatorname{mod} 8
\;\;\text{ and } \;\;
5 \cdot 6 \cdot x \equiv 30\cdot x \equiv 6 \cdot x \operatorname{mod} 8
$$ Thus the equation ##6\cdot x \equiv 5 \operatorname{mod} 8## is solvabel if and only if ##6 \in \mathbb{Z}_8## has an inverse, which we dealt with in the first part.

The moment you forget about divisions and consider them as what they are, multiplications, you can calculate like you're used to. The only advice here is, that it is better to write a little more and do a little less in mind to avoid mistakes.

And of course we can always write down the multiplication table and see which multiples of ##6## lead to ##5##, which is the boring way and not practicable in say ##\mathbb{Z}_{186}##.
 
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Math9999 said:
And what about problem like 6x=5 in ℤ8?
Think of ##6x=2(3x)## will be even , and an even number minus 8 will also be even... Think in terms of the gcd of some numbers.
 
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Got it. Thanks to everyone.
 
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1. Why is the answer "No solution"?

The answer "No solution" means that there is no value or set of values that can be substituted into the equation or problem to make it true. It indicates that the problem or equation has no solution or does not have a valid answer.

2. What are some examples of problems with "No solution"?

Problems with "No solution" can occur in various areas of math and science, such as systems of equations, quadratic equations with imaginary roots, and problems involving inequalities. For example, the equation x + 2 = x has no solution because no value of x can make the equation true.

3. How can you tell if a problem has "No solution"?

In most cases, you can tell if a problem has no solution by solving it and checking if the solution makes sense. If the solution does not make the equation or problem true, then it is likely that the problem has no solution. Additionally, certain equations or problems may have specific characteristics, such as no real roots, that indicate they have no solution.

4. Can "No solution" ever be a valid answer?

Yes, in some cases, "No solution" can be a valid answer. For example, if a problem asks for a solution within a certain set of constraints, and there is no value that satisfies these constraints, then "No solution" may be the correct answer. Additionally, problems involving imaginary numbers may also have "No solution" as a valid answer.

5. How do you handle problems with "No solution"?

When solving a problem with "No solution", it is important to carefully check your work and make sure that the problem does indeed have no solution. If you are sure that the problem has no solution, then you can simply state "No solution" as your answer. However, if you are unsure, it is best to seek help from a teacher or tutor to confirm your answer.

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