Why Is the Chain Rule Necessary for Differentiating Functions Like e^sqrt(x)?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the chain rule in calculus, specifically in differentiating functions like e^sqrt(x). Participants express confusion about when the chain rule is necessary and how it relates to other differentiation formulas.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the necessity of the chain rule for differentiating composite functions, questioning the application of general exponential differentiation formulas. There is discussion about the distinction between simple functions and those requiring the chain rule, with examples provided.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the chain rule and its application. Some guidance has been offered on when to use the chain rule, but there remains a lack of consensus on the understanding of certain concepts, particularly regarding the notation and definitions involved.

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Some participants express urgency due to an upcoming midterm, indicating the context of the discussion is related to exam preparation. There are also mentions of potential misunderstandings regarding logarithmic functions and differentiation rules.

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Just some general questions as I'm confused with when to use chain rule when not to.

For instance, to find the derivative of e^sqrt(x), the right answer is to use chain rule to get e^sqrtx*the derivative of sqrt(x). BUT, isn't there a formula that: d/dx K^x = In(K)*K^x? K for constant and x for differentiable function. So why I can't use it to get e^sqrt(x)=Ine*e^sqrt(x)? AND, isn't d/dx(e^x) = e^x?? I'm completely confused.. Midterm tomorrow.. really need your help.. Thanks a lot!
 
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sl2382 said:
Just some general questions as I'm confused with when to use chain rule when not to.

For instance, to find the derivative of e^sqrt(x), the right answer is to use chain rule to get e^sqrtx*the derivative of sqrt(x). BUT, isn't there a formula that: d/dx K^x = In(K)*K^x?
No, there isn't. There is no function named In. Are you thinking ln (LN) for the natural logarithm?
sl2382 said:
K for constant and x for differentiable function. So why I can't use it to get e^sqrt(x)=Ine*e^sqrt(x)? AND, isn't d/dx(e^x) = e^x?? I'm completely confused.. Midterm tomorrow.. really need your help.. Thanks a lot!

d/dx(ex) = ex, but what about d/dx(ef(x))? For that you need the chain rule.

Let u = f(x).
d/dx(ef(x)) = d/dx(eu) = d/du(eu) * du/dx = eu * du/dx.
 
I don't know what you mean by In(K). Do you mean ln(K) (natural logarithm of K)? Assuming that's ln:

BUT, isn't there a formula that: d/dx K^x = In(K)*K^x

Yes, but x there isn't a function, it's the variable you're deriving in relation to! The formula for the derivate function of an exponential is:

\frac{d}{dx}K^{f(x)} = \frac{df(x)}{dx}ln(K)K^{f(x)}

The special case when f(x) = x gives that equation you wrote, because \frac{df(x)}{dx} = 1. But when f(x) isn't x, \frac{df(x)}{dx} won't be 1.

To deduce this equation you need to do the chain rule.
 
The short answer is you have to use the chain rule whenever the argument isn't just a simple x. So you don't need it for ex. But you need it for e to anything more complicated than that: e^{2x},\ e^{\sqrt x},\ e^{-x} etc.

It's the same with any function. You don't need it for sin(x) but you do for the sine of anything else:\sin(2x),\ sin(-x),\ sin(x^3)etc.

You could be safe and always use it. For example, if you use it on sin(x) you will just get the derivative as \cos(x)\cdot 1. The extra 1 is correct and doesn't hurt anything.
 
Thank you so much for all of your helps! Thanks!
 
I thought you technically always use the chain rule anyway.

For instance,
\frac{d}{dx}y=x^2
\frac{dy}{dx}=2x(x')
\frac{dy}{dx}=2x

You are still using the chain rule, it's just that x' is 1 because the function is being differentiated with respect to x.
 

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