Why is the E-field inside a solid conducting sphere zero?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of the electric field inside a solid conducting sphere, particularly in relation to external charges and the arrangement of charges within the conductor. It explores theoretical explanations and mathematical principles related to electrostatics.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that when a conductor has a net charge, the charges repel and arrange symmetrically on the surface, resulting in a zero electric field inside the sphere.
  • Others question the scenario where a charge is placed outside the sphere, suggesting that the charges within the conductor will rearrange to cancel any external electric field, though this rearrangement may not be symmetric.
  • One participant notes the presence of charges on the conductor even when it is electrically neutral, highlighting the role of mobile charge carriers in response to external fields.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of using Green's function and the method of "image charges" to analytically demonstrate that the electric field inside the sphere remains zero when charges are only present outside.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of external charges on the electric field inside the conductor, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about charge distribution and the conditions under which the electric field is considered zero. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in the theoretical explanations presented.

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The common explanation is this: If the conductor has a net charge, then the charges repel each other until they arrange themselves symmetrically around the outside of the sphere, and if you do the math the electric field will cancel out everywhere inside the conducting sphere.

Alright, but what if the charge is placed on a point outside of the sphere instead of on the sphere? If you keep the charge separate from the conducting sphere, then the charges won't be able to arrange themselves symmetrically around the sphere to make the electric field inside the conductor cancel out. What keeps the electric field inside the conductor zero in this case?
 
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OmegaKV said:
If you keep the charge separate from the conducting sphere, then the charges won't be able to arrange themselves symmetrically around the sphere to make the electric field inside the conductor cancel out.
The charges within the conducting sphere will arrange themselves so that they cancel any imposed field from the charges outside the sphere. That rearrangement will not be symmetric.
 
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Doc Al said:
The charges within the conducting sphere will arrange themselves so that they cancel any imposed field from the charges outside the sphere. That rearrangement will not be symmetric.

Interesting, I hadn't previously considered that there are charges on the conductor when it is electrically neutral.
 
OmegaKV said:
I hadn't previously considered that there are charges on the conductor when it is electrically neutral.
Sure. What makes a conductor a conductor is the presence of mobile charge carriers (such as electrons) that can move easily in response to an imposed field. In the electrostatic case, the charges will move until the imposed field is canceled.
 
It's a mathematical theorem of potential theory. In the case of the sphere you can find the Green's function analytically, using the method of "image charges". You'll find that in the case that charges are present only outside of the sphere the field inside is 0.
 

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