Why is there a cathode to ground resistor on a KT66 power tube in an amp kit?

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The discussion revolves around the purpose of a cathode to ground resistor in a KT66 power tube within an amplifier kit. Participants explore its implications for measuring current flow, biasing, and feedback in the context of tube amplifiers, particularly referencing a Marshall JTM 45 schematic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the 1 ohm resistor allows for measuring current flow without significantly affecting cathode bias.
  • Another participant notes that the resistor introduces slight negative feedback, estimating its effect on grid bias at a specific cathode current.
  • A different participant recalls a previous discussion about measuring cathode current for bias adjustment.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality and safety of the kit, including the absence of bleeder resistors and proper AC line covers.
  • One participant proposes that a 1 ohm resistor enables direct measurement of plate current as a voltage drop, leading to calculations of plate dissipation.
  • Another participant comments on the negligible effect of grid current on plate current measurements, emphasizing the small scale of grid current in tube amplifiers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the function of the 1 ohm resistor for measuring current and its minimal impact on biasing. However, there are varying perspectives on the implications of this measurement and the overall quality of the amplifier kit being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the impact of the resistor on cathode bias and the effects of grid current remain unresolved, as participants express differing views and calculations without reaching a consensus.

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Individuals interested in tube amplifier design, current measurement techniques in electronics, and those working with amplifier kits may find this discussion relevant.

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There is a cathode to ground resistor on a KT66 power tube on a amp kit. The value is 1 ohm. I ASSUME the only reason for it being there would be to be able to measure the current flow. I ASSUME 1 ohm is not going to change the cathode bias. Is my assumption correct?

The KT66 is a beam power tetrode and this amp kit is based on a Marshal JTM 45 schematic. The original schematic has the cathode going directly to ground.

Thanks,

Billy
 
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The cathode to ground resistor introduces a slight negative feedback. At a cathode current of 100mA, it will change the grid bias by 100mV, which is not very much. The famous Williamson amplifier (http://www.preservationsound.com/?p=3823) uses a complex cathode resistor network, but assume an equivalent of 120Ω per tube, giving a cathode bias (at 80mA) of ≈ 10V.
 
Do i perhaps remember discussing that amp ?
If i recall it was for measuring cathode current when you adjust bias ?
While amp is off , make sure it's still one ohm.
 
No Jim, not the same amp. This is a new kit I am try fix for a kid to keep him from killing himself. You would not believe how bad he had it messed up. Solder running everywhere. Really dangerous stuff. I had to re-do everything.

I am now looking it over to see if the instructions are correct. I really dislike these kit projects. No bleeder resistors. No cover on the AC line. On and On...not good.
 
Thanks Jim

Billy
 
I am learning this at the moment but can I assume that a 1 Ohm resistor in the cathode circuit allows the plate current to be measured directly as a voltage because a 1 Ohm resistor gives V=A. Once I have my plate voltage I can work out my plate dissipation and then adjust bias accordingly.

So if my plate voltage is 400 V, the voltage drop on the 1 Ohm resistor is 25 mV (0.025 V = 0.025 A) then my plate dissipation is 10 W.

By measuring the current in this way I guess I am ignoring the small current added to the plate by the input signal on the grid. Or am I?
 
Bandit127 said:
By measuring the current in this way I guess I am ignoring the small current added to the plate by the input signal on the grid. Or am I?
grid current is microamps
and the electrons came from the cathode so plate current will be a teeny bit less than cathode, negligible when using analog meters of tube days.
 
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