Why the earth is rotating along its axis?

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The discussion centers on the reasons behind Earth's rotation and the nature of rotation in other celestial bodies. It explores theories suggesting that Earth's rotation began due to gravitational interactions during its formation, potentially influenced by collisions with other planetary bodies. Participants also discuss the unique rotational characteristics of planets like Uranus and Venus, noting that Uranus has an extreme axial tilt likely caused by past impacts. The conversation highlights the concept of conservation of angular momentum, explaining that the initial rotation of the solar system's material contributes to the current motions of planets. Overall, the thread emphasizes the complexities of planetary rotation and the forces at play in celestial mechanics.
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I'm searching for a theory that explains why the Earth is rotating on its axis and how long ago it began to do it.
I should like to know, also, if rotation is common to all planets or there are some bodies that don't rotate. Are there any bodies that have their rotation axis parallel to their orbit?
 
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Uranus has an axis almost eprpendicular to its orbit.
 
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Well you might have read or heard about How Earth was created, it says small circular discs/ plates came closer and joined together because of gravitational force.
Just assume at some point in a very early phase of the planet it was not spinning and all of sudden a large piece of planetary dics was pulled in because of the gravitational force and it hit Earth at some angle and with some velocity- make a good guess what it might have done to the earth- it made it spin.
 
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Venus' axes of rotation and revolution are antiparallel.
 
Hi Lurch what you say means that Uranus is more perpendicular than Earth?
My question might be misinterpreted:
Are there planets or bodies in general that have rotation axis perpendicular to revolution axis?
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall that the moon is a body that does not rotate on an axis so one side of the moon always faces Earth.. Hence, you might have heard of the saying, "dark side of the moon" which we never see due to the lack of rotation.
 
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Venus' axes of rotation and revolution are antiparallel.
Actually, Venus revolves around the Sun in the ordinary east-west direction in a near perfect circle. Similarly, Venus's axis of rotation is nearly perfectly perpendicular to its orbital plane--the direction of rotation is retrograde (backwards), not antiparallel, having a sidereal period of about 243 days.
mathwurks said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall that the moon is a body that does not rotate on an axis so one side of the moon always faces Earth.. Hence, you might have heard of the saying, "dark side of the moon" which we never see due to the lack of rotation.
The moon DOES rotate such that the period of rotaion is equal to its period of revolution. If it didn't rotate we'd be able to see the so-called dark side (which is fully lit up during the new moon phase).
 
mathwurkz said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall that the moon is a body that does not rotate on an axis so one side of the moon always faces Earth.. Hence, you might have heard of the saying, "dark side of the moon" which we never see due to the lack of rotation.

No. The moon does rotate on its axis. It has a rotation period that is exactly equal to its period of revolution. Because of THIS FACT, we can only see one side of the moon. It finishes one revolution at the same time it finishes one rotation, so the same side of the moon will always face us. Think about it.
 
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I was on Earth when I made that statement. I guess I should have taken my spacecraft and observed the moon's rotation from somewhere in outer space.
 
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WarrenPlatts said:
Venus's axis of rotation is nearly perfectly perpendicular to its orbital plane--the direction of rotation is retrograde (backwards), not antiparallel,

Its spin angular momentum vector is antiparallel to its orbital angular momentum vector, which also means that its spin axis is perpendicular to the orbital plane. Both yours and Tide's descriptions are correct.
 
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mathwurkz said:
I was on Earth when I made that statement. I guess I should have taken my spacecraft and observed the moon's rotation from somewhere in outer space.

Even in the coordinate system (perspective) of a stationary earthbound observer, the moon rotates. If it didn't, you'd see different parts of it as it moved across the sky.
 
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The ecliptic plane hints at why orbital axes are what they are. A planet or two got flipped a bit along the way. That is not hard to explain, and as a bonus... requires no dark matter. Newtonian dynamics work very well at short distances.
 
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Warren,

Actually, Venus revolves around the Sun in the ordinary east-west direction in a near perfect circle. Similarly, Venus's axis of rotation is nearly perfectly perpendicular to its orbital plane--the direction of rotation is retrograde (backwards), not antiparallel, having a sidereal period of about 243 days.

The axes of rotation and revolution are antiparallel - that is exactly what retrograde rotation means.
 
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paglren said:
Hi Lurch what you say means that Uranus is more perpendicular than Earth?
My question might be misinterpreted:
Are there planets or bodies in general that have rotation axis perpendicular to revolution axis?

:blushing: Sorry, meant to say "Parralel to its orbit". Uranus' north pole points almost strait at the Sun.
 
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LURCH said:
:blushing: Sorry, meant to say "Parralel to its orbit". Uranus' north pole points almost strait at the Sun.
Only at the height of summer and winter! :smile: In autumn and spring it doesn't point at the Sun at all! :smile:
 
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Dave,

Are you sure about that? I heard it stated on a discovery channel special about the Voyager probes (or was it pioneer?) That Uranus is laying sideways, with one poll constantly pointed toward the sun, and the other always pointing away. Since then, I have heard the same statement made by several astronomers on educational television programs, and found it on several web sites as well. But I have always wondered whether this was something we actually knew for certain, or had we only observed Uranus on one brief occasion? Perhaps the poll only points directly at the sun at that one point in the planet's orbit. If one poll always pointed to the sun, then the planet has to have two rotational axes; one the axis of what we think of as normal planetary rotation, and the other a much slower rotation that is tidally locked to the sun.

The statement is made frequently, and quite dogmatically, by people who really should know, but I've never heard anyone explain it in detail.
 
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According to nineplanets.org:
"...At the time of Voyager 2's passage, Uranus' south pole was pointed almost directly at the Sun..."
This would imply that the alignment changes with time.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
According to nineplanets.org:
"...At the time of Voyager 2's passage, Uranus' south pole was pointed almost directly at the Sun..."
This would imply that the alignment changes with time.
Hello,

Why is Uranus tilted in such a manner?
 
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No one really knows, but the most popular theory is that the planet was struck by on other planet-sized body at sometime in the distant past.
 
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LURCH said:
No one really knows, but the most popular theory is that the plant was struck by on other planet-sized body at sometime in the distant past.
That's what i was thinking, or seeing as that is the only explanation i can come up with
 
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There is no such thing as having two rotational axis. Try to make a gyroscope rotate along another axis than it already does, and it will refuse!
Uranus rotational axis always (not considering timespans of thousands of years) points in the same direction, just like a gyroscope would do in space. In other words, if the axis of Uranus points towards the sun at this moment, just wait 22 years and its axis will point along its orbit instead (because then Uranus has moved one quarter of its orbit. To still point towards the sun, Uranus would have to turn one quarter also, but it does not), and in another 22 years it will point its other end towards the sun. Because of this Uranus actually has some kind of seasons, with slight color differences between its two hemispheres.
Why Uranus axis has this extreme tilt is a mystery, I think. Something BIG must had happened.
When it comes to Earth, it would certanly be a mystery if it did not rotate. No one would be able two explain such a fact. Earth is composed of matter whirling :smile: around in the primordial solar system, so it is quite natural that the Earth also is "whirling".
 
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Anders Lundberg said:
There is no such thing as having two rotational axis. Try to make a gyroscope rotate along another axis than it already does, and it will refuse!
Uranus rotational axis always (not considering timespans of thousands of years) points in the same direction, just like a gyroscope would do in space. In other words, if the axis of Uranus points towards the sun at this moment, just wait 22 years and its axis will point along its orbit instead (because then Uranus has moved one quarter of its orbit. To still point towards the sun, Uranus would have to turn one quarter also, but it does not), and in another 22 years it will point its other end towards the sun.

Thanks, that clears up a long-standing personal mystery of mine. Has this actually been observed?
 
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When the solar system first formed, all the planets were bombarded by fragments of the primordial cloud which birthed it. It is not surprising a few were knocked off axis in the process - especially outer planets.
 
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LURCH said:
Has this actually been observed?
First a correction. It takes Uranus 84 years to complete a full turn around the sun, so one quarter of the orbit is 21 years, not 22! My mistake.)
Uranus where discovered in 1781, so we have had a lot of time to watch it. Uranus behaves excactly as the laws of mechanics says it should.
You can find an illustration of this at the site
http://www.nasm.si.edu/ceps/etp/uranus/uran_SPR.html"
Furthermore you will find an outstanding movie clip of the seasons of Uranus at this site http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1999/11/text/"
 
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It seems to me that every body turning around a star is actually rotating on its own axis at some angular speed.
What do you think about the lightning effect causing rotation?
I.e.: could be the light influence of the main star the only cause for the dark objects to rotate (the mass obviously should be the cause of revolution movement)?
 
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paglren said:
It seems to me that every body turning around a star is actually rotating on its own axis at some angular speed.
What do you think about the lightning effect causing rotation?
I.e.: could be the light influence of the main star the only cause for the dark objects to rotate (the mass obviously should be the cause of revolution movement)?

Radiation torques would have a very small effect on planets. Their angular momentum is probably set during the formation of the solar system. The details will depend on the precise mechanism by which they formed, which is still somewhat uncertain. Of course, subsequent collisions would also contribute.
 
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What type of forces made Earth moe around the sun & what type of force made it rotate on its own axis? & what type of forces made electrons move around nuclese & what type of force made it rotating on its own axis?
 
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say me only that what type of forces acting between Earth &sun?or what type of forces made Earth rotating around the earth?please answer me in detail i m in very biggest trouble
 
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Conservation of angular momentum: the cloud the Earth and sun formed from was rotating. So the Earth orbits and rotates.

There is no force between the sun and Earth to cause the motion (Newton's first law say constant speed motion requires no force). The force of gravity changes only the direction of motion, converting otherwise linear motion to the (roughly) circular motion of an orbit.
 
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mehul ahir said:
or what type of forces made Earth rotating around the earth?please answer me in detail i m in very biggest trouble

Think about what happens when you pull the plug from a tub of water. Water from all directions rushes toward the drain, and the forces that the center of the drain are not perfectly symmetrical. That is to say, not all of the water molecules collide with one another "head-on." Some will pass by one another slightly to the left or the right.

Eventually, slightly more particles will pass to one side than the other. This on even force causes all the water around the drain to begin spinning in one direction. This is essentially what happened to the collapsing cloud of dust and gases that eventually formed the earth. Gravity caused them to collapse rapidly, rushing quickly toward a central point, and slight imperfections in the symmetry of the collisions made them spin.
 
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