Why Use Kinetic Energy Instead of Momentum to Stop a Car?

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The discussion centers on the confusion between using kinetic energy (KE) and momentum in calculating the force required to stop a moving car. It highlights that KE is relevant when considering the energy needed to stop an object, while momentum is used when the time or distance over which the stop occurs is specified. Participants clarify that without additional information on the stopping time or distance, the original question cannot be answered. The conversation emphasizes that if the stopping time is given, momentum formulas apply; if the stopping distance is provided, KE formulas are appropriate. Understanding the distinction between these concepts is crucial for solving related physics problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


A 2000kg car is moving at 50km/h. What is the force required to stop it?

Homework Equations


KE=1/2m(v^2)
p=m*v

The Attempt at a Solution



1/2(2000kg)*(50km/h)^2 =
1000kg*2500km^2/h^2 =
2,500,000 km^2/h^2
converting from hours to seconds and km to m (to get joules)
2,500,000 km^2/h^2 = 2,500,000,000 m^2/h^2
2,500,000,000 m^2/h^2 / 60 / 60 = 694444.4... J

My answer may or may not be right. (I'm actually not so concerned with the math). Rather, I have a fundamental problem understanding the difference between KE and momentum. Why am I using the formula for KE to compute the energy to stop a moving mass and not the formula for momentum?

If not here, when is the formula for momentum used?

I am extremely confused on whether to use KE or momentum to handle collisions. I've come across an analogy that KE is the work, and momentum is the transportation for that work.

The equal and opposite reaction (Newton's third law), is this based off of momentum or KE?

I really would love a simple place to start for a comparison of these two terms. Thanks for any help.
 
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The question that you state should be completed as follows:

(...) What is the force required to stop it in x seconds?

or:

(...) What is the force required to stop it in y meters?

Since no mass in motion can be stopped instantaneously, or in no distance...
 
Ok, I think I follow.

If it is in seconds, we're looking at momentum. If it is in meters, we're looking at KE.

Is that about right?
 
smcclenaghan said:
Ok, I think I follow.

If it is in seconds, we're looking atmomentum. If it is in meters, we're looking at KE.

Is that about right?
No. NTW was pointing out that your question cannot be answered, there is insufficient information.

We need to be given information on how quickly the vehicle is to be stopped.
 
NascentOxygen said:
No. NTW was pointing out that your question cannot be answered, there is insufficient information.

We need to be given information on how quickly the vehicle is to be stopped.
Right. So if the question were asking how much force in X seconds, we'd be looking at the formula for momentum.
And if the question were asking how much force in X meters, we'd be looking at the formula for KE.

Am I on the right track?

(I understand the original question is not answerable as posted).
 
Yes, you would be able to solve for the force that way.
 
I appreciate the response, NascentOxygen (and to you NTW).
 
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