Why we dont use Magnet Motors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of magnet motors, particularly the Perendev magnetic motor, and the broader topic of free energy and perpetual motion machines. Participants explore the feasibility, theoretical implications, and practical applications of such motors, questioning why they are not utilized in everyday life.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express belief in the potential of magnet motors, citing benefits such as good torque, low cost, and green energy.
  • Others argue that magnet motors do not work and reference the laws of thermodynamics as a fundamental barrier.
  • One participant questions the existence of magnet motors, noting the lack of real-life examples and suggesting that if they were viable, they would be widely adopted.
  • Another participant challenges the belief in magnet motors by referencing the principle of TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch) and the absence of convincing evidence for their functionality.
  • Concerns are raised about the patenting of such devices, with discussions on whether patents can be granted for concepts that do not work, and the distinction between patent applications and perpetual motion claims.
  • Some participants acknowledge the historical context of perpetual motion machines being debunked and classified as closed topics within the forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the viability of magnet motors, with some believing in their potential and others asserting they do not work. There is no consensus on the existence or functionality of these devices.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various claims and counterclaims regarding the patenting process and the nature of perpetual motion machines, indicating a lack of clarity on these topics. The discussion also highlights the forum's rules regarding the topic of perpetual motion.

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Hello Everybody
I heard about unlimited and free energy from magnet motors like perendev magnetic motor
I believe that it work , Do I think true?
I think perendev magnetic motor specification is:
  • good Torque
  • cheap
  • GREEN Energy
  • Easy to build

My question is : " Why we don't use Magnet Motors? ":confused:WHY?
I cannot understand?
Why we don't use it for
  • our Home?
  • our Car?
  • our Factory?
  • Remove Energy Transfer ? ( like Electricity lines,Gas pipeline)
:confused::confused:
 
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Because they don't work? They have problems getting past the laws of thermodynamics.
 
magnet said:
Hello Everybody
I heard about unlimited and free energy from magnet motors like perendev magnetic motor
I believe that it work...

- I guess you know that they're not theoretically possible.

- You seem to understand that if they (free energy magnet only motors) did exist they would offer such overwhelming benefit they would be used everywhere.

- You've never seen one in real life (and I'm not talking about just some scam video).

- Yet you still believe they exist. Why ?
 
Hello Magnet
I read your enthusiastic post about unlimited and free energy from magnet motors like perendev magnetic motor.
I don't believe that it works , I know it is not true!

I think the evidence for this is:
  • TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch
  • The manufacturers refuse access to the workings of the motor
  • Anything that involves perpetual motion is fundamentally flawed
  • No one has convincingly duplicated the results

My question is : " What makes you believe this nonsense? ":confused:WHY?
I cannot understand!
Why you don't you
  • Study some basic physics?
  • Write some tough questions to the manufacturer and inventor?
  • Recognise a scam when you see one?
  • Buy one and report back here as to your success? (I won't be funding you.)
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
ibtl
 
I believe this beacuase , before I saw some scam video I had an Idea that based on :
W = F.d and W unit is J = Energy
My idea is different and I test it

I Wanted build a motor until saw some scam video and thought it is invented before me
Now I Know , there is not a perpetual motion motor and I will try to build one

But The new question is : If they don't work,why they have patent?


Thanks for your help
Excuseme if my english is not good
 
magnet said:
But The new question is : If they don't work,why they have patent?
You don't need to show that something works in order to obtain a patent for it. However, perpetual motion machines are automatically excluded from patent consideration, so whatever was patented was not claimed as a perpetual motion machine to the USPTO.

Also, perpetual motion is not a permitted topic on this forum, this is part of the rules that you agreed to when you signed up for the account.
 
It has NOT been patented. He appllied for a patent, in several nations, in 2006 but the applications were all turned down.
 
I understand from this topic that
  1. Everybody believe , there is no perpetual motion machines
  2. Haward jonson motor or Haward jonson's based motor is not work
  3. Mylow magnet motor is not work
Ok? Please say me I understand true
 
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Perpetual motion/free energy schemes are on our list of "closed topics"--they violate basic physics and have been debunked to death. Please refer to our posting rules, which are linked at the top of every page.
 

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