Why wont my Karate chopping hand pass through the table?

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The discussion centers on why a karate chop cannot pass through a table, referencing Brian Greene's explanation of electromagnetic forces and Lisa Randall's mention of the Pauli exclusion principle. Both perspectives are considered valid but serve different roles; electromagnetic interactions are primarily responsible for the inability to penetrate solid objects, while the Pauli exclusion principle relates to atomic structure. The structural integrity of the table is significantly higher than that of a hand, which plays a crucial role in this phenomenon. Additionally, breaking a board requires understanding the material properties and the energy needed to exceed its deformation threshold. Ultimately, successful execution in martial arts requires ensuring that the striking force surpasses this energy requirement.
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In his PBS series videos, Brian Greene states the reason being electromagnetic forces between the charges in my body and the object (falling human and the ground in this case)

In her book 'Warped Passages', Lisa Randall states the reason being the Pauli's exclusion principle for the fermions in our body.

Are both the ways of looking at it correct? Or are they complimentary and have a connection?
 
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This is based upon physics of course, as everything is, but the answer is more in the engineering realm. The structural integrity of the table is much higher that that of your hand.
I'll let one of the educated folk take over from that.
 
Yes, that does play a part. But at the atomic level, what causes this said effect?
 
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Yes, that does play a part. But at the atomic level, what causes this said effect?

You can pretty much look at it as electromagnetic interactions. The Pauli exclusion principle is really only talking about single atoms and when you're talking about macroscopic objects interacting, that's not something that needs to be taken into account.
 
To my understanding it is the electromagnetic force that keeps your hand from moving through a table, and it is the pauli exclusion principle that gives atoms a "size" bigger than a hydrogen atom, in addition to other things. Is the PEP the reason behind all of chemistry since it forces electrons to occupy different orbitals and hence determines their different chemical properties?
 
If it's a real question of what it takes for a person to strike a wooden board (or table) in a Tae Kwon Do or Karate manner - and break through it - then the physics is fairly straightforward. The energy required to break a board can be determined from its material properties - specifically the impact strength. The deformation energy involved in such a collision can be derived from the conservation of energy and the conservation of momentum. What remains then, before attempting the break, is a check that the karate hand can physically achieve the speed and mass needed to exceed that deformation energy level. It's good to check these things because failure is more painful than success. (As Newton would tell you had he been interested in the martial arts.)
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks

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