Will voltage drop and fluctuation occur?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the electrical considerations for installing a second mini split AC inverter, specifically focusing on the implications of voltage drop, sag, and fluctuations when connecting to an existing circuit. The conversation touches on the legality, safety, and technical requirements of such electrical work.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is appropriate to branch a wire from the first AC terminal for a second inverter, citing potential legal and safety issues.
  • Concerns are raised about the existing circuit being designed for one inverter and whether it can handle the additional load without requiring thicker wires or a different fuse/breaker.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about potential voltage sag/drop and fluctuations when the second AC is turned on or off, questioning if these could harm the electrical board and compressor of the first AC.
  • Another participant notes that fears regarding voltage issues could be alleviated if the correct wire gauge and fuse ratings are used, but emphasizes the importance of compliance with existing standards.
  • There is mention of a lack of national electrical wiring codes in the Middle East, leading to concerns about the qualifications of local electrical contractors.

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Participants express differing views on the safety and legality of the proposed electrical work, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the implications of voltage fluctuations.

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Limitations include insufficient details about the specific electrical standards applicable to the region and the qualifications of local contractors, which complicate the assessment of safety and compliance.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals considering electrical work for HVAC systems, particularly in regions with varying standards and contractor qualifications.

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Hello,

We have a mini split AC Inverter. We need electrical wire for the second mini split AC inverter.
Can we get a wire branch from the first AC terminal?
Do the voltage drop/sag and fluctuation occur?

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Shervan360 said:
Can we get a wire branch from the first AC terminal?
Do the voltage drop and fluctuation occur?
If you need to ask that question, you should not be doing electrical work. The legality and the permit process will depend on your nation / location.

The existing circuit will be fused for one inverter. If you add a second inverter, it may require thicker wires and a different value fuse/breaker, or another cable run with another fuse/breaker. That is a job for an electrical contractor.
 
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Baluncore said:
If you need to ask that question, you should not be doing electrical work. The legality and the permit process will depend on your nation / location.

The existing circuit will be fused for one inverter. If you add a second inverter, it may require thicker wires and a different value fuse/breaker, or another cable run with another fuse/breaker. That is a job for an electrical contractor.

Sure, I don't want to do electrical work.
If the cable is thick enough and the fuse capacity is sufficient, is there any other problem?

When the second AC is turned on, does the voltage sag/drop and fluctuation occur in the first AC? Can it be harmful to the electrical board and compressor? (and vice versa)

When the second AC is turned off, does the voltage spike and fluctuation occur in the first AC? Can it be harmful to the electrical board and compressor? (and vice versa)
 
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Shervan360 said:
If the cable is thick enough and the fuse capacity is sufficient, is there any other problem?
I always expect other problems, but you have provided insufficient details to enable me to anticipate what those problems might be.

We do not even know what national electrical wiring code you will follow.
 
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Baluncore said:
I always expect other problems, but you have provided insufficient details to enable me to anticipate what those problems might be.

We do not even know what national electrical wiring code you will follow.
I live in the Middle East and we don't have a national electrical wiring code or anything like that.
More than 75% of electrical contractors don't have any certificates or enough knowledge.
 
Shervan360 said:
When the second AC is turned on, does the voltage sag/drop and fluctuation occur in the first AC? Can it be harmful to the electrical board and compressor? (and vice versa)

When the second AC is turned off, does the voltage spike and fluctuation occur in the first AC? Can it be harmful to the electrical board and compressor? (and vice versa)
Those fears will be resolved when wires of sufficient gauge are used with the correctly rated fuse/breakers.

Earth leakage detection is sensitive to the ground connections and the protective earthing. Your new wiring must comply with the existing standard used for your property.
 
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Shervan360 said:
I live in the Middle East and we don't have a national electrical wiring code or anything like that.
More than 75% of electrical contractors don't have any certificates or enough knowledge.
We cannot help you with dangerous and uninformed projects. This thread is closed, and you are on a temporary vacation from PF. If you decide to return, do not post about this type of project again here (you have posted like this multiple times in the past about several similar projects).
 

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