Windows 10 Benefits: 2 PCs, Upgrading from Win 7

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Upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10 offers enhanced security features and ongoing support from Microsoft, but users express concerns about forced updates and privacy issues. Many report hardware compatibility problems, such as unrecognized printers and driver issues, which can hinder functionality. While some users appreciate the improved performance and DirectX 12 support for gaming, others find the user experience frustrating and reminiscent of earlier Windows versions. There are also discussions about the option to use a local account to mitigate data collection by Microsoft. Overall, opinions on Windows 10 are mixed, with some users opting for alternatives like Linux due to dissatisfaction with the new operating system.
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Posting #90 --- No. That's not it. I guess I just need to do as Svein said, and experiment with the F keys and see if any of them will give the Boot Menu at startup.
 
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  • #92
After over a year of Win10 I have to say the title of this thread may be an oxymoron. :cool:
 
  • #93
Windows 10 is AWFUL. You can no longer tell it when you wish to download or install updates like in previous versions. It takes complete control over your computer, I mean TAKES COMPLETE CONTROL, you cannot use your computer while it is updating. And you cannot choose what files to allow to update or when, it just TAKES OVER your computer. I mean you can delay it to do the update to when you want to close down, but it's scary. I HATE WINDOWS 10!
 
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  • #94
Evo said:
I HATE WINDOWS 10!
I think the skunk that woke you up this night made you a bit angry.
 
  • #95
Krylov said:
I think the skunk that woke you up this night made you a bit angry.
It did. :frown: But I hated Windows 10 before that. I don't want to go to an app store to get my basic needs and even then they are not very good. ?:) For example, they changed the calculator, you have no choice, the new one is dreadful, they could at least give you a choice, stay with the old user friendly one or change to the new one, which some people like.
 
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  • #96
Evo said:
It did. :frown: But I hated Windows 10 before that. I don't want to go to an app store to get my basic needs and even then they are not very good. ?:)
I don't want to be evangelical about it, but I think there are at least two (groups of) good user friendly alternatives nowadays that people here can also help you with. There is no need to keep walking with a pebble in your shoe.
 
  • #97
Krylov said:
I don't want to be evangelical about it, but I think there are at least two (groups of) good user friendly alternatives nowadays that people here can also help you with. There is no need to keep walking with a pebble in your shoe.
That would be nice. It seems everytime I "upgrade" I lose good products and functionality. I seem to take 5 steps back for every step forward.

I finally have the smell of skunk gone and the sun will be up soon, so i should try to go to sleep.

I shall complain more later.
 
  • #98
Bystander said:
Bought Office while under Windows 8; since then it updated itself to "10" and has not, so far, refused to run that version of Office, just nags incessantly about "that old thing."
This seems very odd to me. I have a copy of Office 2007 that I bought in about 2008 and I've been using it successfully on several computers since then, both with Windows 7 and Windows 10 and I've never gotten any complaints at all. All of the old Office stuff runs just fine. I run VISIO 2007 and all of the nomal office products (Excel, PowerPoint, Word, Access) from 2007 and never get any complaints. I think you must have a configuration problem.
 
  • #99
Evo said:
It takes complete control over your computer, I mean TAKES COMPLETE CONTROL, you cannot use your computer while it is updating. And you cannot choose what files to allow to update or when, it just TAKES OVER your computer.
You should have, at least, put your post in the correct thread ..... :oldgrumpy:

"...but it's scary." ... :oldlaugh:

Carry on...
 
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  • #101
Evo said:
Windows 10 is AWFUL. You can no longer tell it when you wish to download or install updates like in previous versions. It takes complete control over your computer, I mean TAKES COMPLETE CONTROL, you cannot use your computer while it is updating. And you cannot choose what files to allow to update or when, it just TAKES OVER your computer. I mean you can delay it to do the update to when you want to close down, but it's scary. I HATE WINDOWS 10!
Evo said:
It did. :frown: But I hated Windows 10 before that. I don't want to go to an app store to get my basic needs and even then they are not very good. ?:) For example, they changed the calculator, you have no choice, the new one is dreadful, they could at least give you a choice, stay with the old user friendly one or change to the new one, which some people like.

Windows 10 is good for some things, bad for other things. That forcing when to update regardless when/what we want is one of the bad ones. Turn off automatic updating? Turn it to find but announce without installing until user wants? No.

Microsoft have an application we can buy or download and install? Good, they have. User have a Microsoft account? App Store has the MS applications and user needs MS account to use the App Store. Give me some good non-microsoft alternatives so I don't need to use an App Store. Having a Microsoft Account should provide some advantages, maybe customer records and better service, or other kinds of advantages to being REGISTERED with Microsoft. There well may be advantages. On the other hand, maybe some people do not want the extra email account.
 
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  • #102
Have I mentioned that within a few days of getting Windows 10 my left hip gave out? Yeah, try to defend that one. :))
 
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  • #103
Evo said:
Have I mentioned that within a few days of getting Windows 10 my left hip gave out? Yeah, try to defend that one.

Repressed anger will do that to you. That's why i cuss and rant so much about Bill Gates and his slipshod ways. Get it out.

old jim
 
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  • #104
Evo said:
LOLOL! IT'S...ALIVE!
:check: ... :oldbiggrin:
 
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  • #105
I've been using Windows 10 right after it came out. I personally find it pretty good, only except that for home editions, the automatic update cannot be disabled. This has caused my long calculation (in the order of days) to stop and had to start all over again. Otherwise, I had no problems thus far.
 
  • #106
HAYAO said:
the automatic update cannot be disabled.

Yes it can. Though I had to choose option #2 as #5 wasn't working for me.
 
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  • #107
Evo said:
For example, they changed the calculator, you have no choice, the new one is dreadful, they could at least give you a choice, stay with the old user friendly one or change to the new one, which some people like.
Yeah, the new calculator is just terrible. Do they not know that people might actually want a calculator that is useful? I can't imagine what they were thinking.
 
  • #108
WIN 10 is more then safety
 
  • #109
mathman said:
I have 2 pc's (desktop and notebook), both on Windows 7. What would I gain (or lose) by switching to Windows 10?
You would get a brilliant Free Mail app, a fast browser, more adapted version of Skype, and a brand new App Store to name a few things.
Don't upgrade if your computer is fairly slow.
Havn't noticed anything bad about it yet even though i have had it for nearly a year.
 
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i-like-maths said:
You would get a brilliant Free Mail app, a fast browser, more adapted version of Skype, and a brand new App Store to name a few things.
Don't upgrade if your computer is fairly slow.
Havn't noticed anything bad about it yet even though i have had it for nearly a year.
You obviously haven't been reading this thread. Most of us think Win 10 sucks.
 
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  • #111
phinds said:
You obviously haven't been reading this thread. Most of us think Win 10 sucks.
I didn't know we weren't allowed to have our own opinion. Is «Win 10 sucks» considered a «mainstream theory» per PF rules that cannot be challenged? o_O:smile:
 
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  • #112
Since Istarted this line of inquiry, I would like to voice my experience, having gotten past the learning curve. I don't use Cortana or edge. Windows explorer is different - better? In general, the transition from Windows 7 seemed pointless. One minor nuisance, updates are automatically installed.
 
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  • #113
mathman said:
One minor nuisance, updates are automatically installed.
According to post 106, it looks like you can get around that.
 
  • #114
jack action said:
I didn't know we weren't allowed to have our own opinion. Is «Win 10 sucks» considered a «mainstream theory» per PF rules that cannot be challenged? o_O:smile:
Well, you can challenge it, but you would be wrong :oldlaugh:
 
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  • #115
phinds said:
Well, you can challenge it, but you would be wrong
"Big Brother is watching you!"
George Orwell: 1984.
 
  • #116
phinds said:
You obviously haven't been reading this thread. Most of us think Win 10 sucks.
It does depend on what sort of Computer it is you have upgraded.
I have got a fairly recent PC and works well in most ways
 
  • #117
mathman said:
Since Istarted this line of inquiry, I would like to voice my experience, having gotten past the learning curve. I don't use Cortana or edge. Windows explorer is different - better? In general, the transition from Windows 7 seemed pointless. One minor nuisance, updates are automatically installed.
Just out of interest, why don't you use Cortana or Edge?
 
  • #118
i-like-maths said:
Just out of interest, why don't you use Cortana or Edge?
Cortana - I am not sure what it is for.
Edge - I use a browser (Avant) which was designed originally as a front end for IE. Later development included a capability to switch among IE, Firefox, or Chrome without getting out of the browser. It has worked well for me so I see no reason to change.
 
  • #119
I find Edge to be less cluttered but also with the pieces of settings far less easy to find, so I use usually Chrome or Firefox.

Cortana is not helpful. If I want to search the internet for something I want a web browser. If I want to search for something on the computer, I found a way to turn off some setting in Cortana and use the textbox of Search to find what I want ( a file or a program). Otherwise, Windows 10 is mostly good, much like Vista or XP.
 
  • #120
symbolipoint said:
Cortana is not helpful.
I think it's worse than just "not helpful". It's stupid and annoying. That was one of the first things I got rid of (turned off ... you CAN'T actually get rid of it, which I also find obnoxious)
 
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