Work to move a planet's satellite

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work required to move a satellite from one circular orbit to another around a planet. The problem involves gravitational potential energy and the mass of the satellite and planet, with specific radii given for the orbits.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using gravitational potential energy equations and the work-energy principle. Some mention integrating the potential energy function to find work, while others explore the relationship between changes in total energy and work done. Questions about the derivation of relevant equations are also raised.

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There are multiple approaches being explored, including integration and energy change calculations. Some participants have found different methods to arrive at their answers, and there is a mix of agreement and inquiry regarding the correctness of these methods. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between potential energy and work.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of gravitational forces and energy changes in orbital mechanics. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles rather than simply applying formulas.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the work required to move a planet's satellite of mass 2230 kg from a circular orbit of radius 2R to one of radius 3R, where 5.32 X 10^6 m is the radius of the planet. The mass of the planet is 3.36 X 10^24 kg.

Answer in units of J.

Homework Equations



U(r) = -\frac{G M m}{r}

The Attempt at a Solution



W = \Delta U = U_f - Ui = - \frac{G M_p M_s}{3 R} + \frac{G M_p M_s}{2 R} = - \frac{2 G M_p M_s}{6 R} + \frac{3 G M_p M_s}{6 R} = \frac{G M_p M_s}{6 R}

the answer I got (1.5663 X 10^10) was wrong.
 
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You'd have to integrate dU(r) from 2R to 3R; R varies as the work is done.
 
i came up with the same answer via integration
 
There will also be a difference in kinetic energy, that is you need to park it in the orbit. Just getting it there is not enough.
 
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I just used

\Delta E = E_f - E_i = - \frac{G M_p M_s}{2}(\frac{1}{R_f} - \frac{1}{R_i})

and that was the right answer; so the change in total energy is equal to work?
 
lizzyb said:
I just used

\Delta E = E_f - E_i = - \frac{G M_p M_s}{2}(\frac{1}{R_f} - \frac{1}{R_i})

and that was the right answer; so the change in total energy is equal to work?

Yes. That is the work-energy principal. The expression you used for the total energy reflects the changes in both potential and kinetic energies between the two orbits. The total energy change is equal to the work done to change the orbit.
 
How is this equation derived?
 
andrevdh said:
How is this equation derived?

For a circular orbit

F = mv²/r = GMm/r²

mv² = GMm/r

E = KE + PE = ½mv² - GMm/r = ½GMm/r - GMm/r = -½GMm/r
 
Thank you. I thought it would be complicated - integration ...?
 
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andrevdh said:
Thank you. I thought it would be complicated - integration ...?

The potential energy function comes from integrating the gravitational force, but that's been done many times so we use the result: PE = -GMm/r
 

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