Working out energy change during change of moment of inertia

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The discussion centers on the energy changes involved when a dancer reduces her moment of inertia by pulling her hands inward, which increases her angular velocity. A participant explored a simpler scenario with a particle moving in a circle, calculating the work done against centrifugal force using integrals, resulting in a logarithmic expression. However, this expression differed from the energy change calculated using conservation of angular momentum, raising concerns about potential errors in the approach. Another participant suggested using a mass on a string as a clearer example to compare work done and kinetic energy changes, emphasizing that both methods should yield the same result. The conversation highlights the complexities of calculating energy changes in rotational dynamics.
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theres a standard question about the spinning dancer who pulls her hands inward reducing her moment of inertia and increasing her ang. velocity . it seems she had to do some work against the centrifugal force (from momentum and energy equations)
i thought of a simpler example to check if the amt of work that needs to be done agianst the force is indeed equal to the change in energy .considering a particle insted of the ballerina moving in a circle i worked out the work necassary using integral of force times distance moved . i substiuted values for ang. vel. since it isn't constant(from cons of ang momentum eq.) and it worked out to be a logarthmic expression . the change in energy from the first approach was different( no log term) . i have a feeling i have made some fundamental mistake . the calculations seem ok.,
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I don't know how you got a logarithmic expression.

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