Would you date a girl with tatoos?

[Cyrus]

You recently called lower-back tattoos "tramp stamps" and that is an unfortunate characterization that demeans the women who have them, including my niece. A nice floral tattoo in a place that is normally covered during working hours, but can be seen when wearing more revealing clothing, bathing suits, etc, is not a sign that a women is a tramp. It is a sign that she has decided to get a body decoration, but in a place that is easily concealed under most circumstances.

Well, of course not. I just hate them. Obviously there not really tramps. But that's what I think when I see one. OK, maybe not tramp. But I she def. goes down the scale in terms of being classy. Here's why. There is NOTHING that awesome, cool, or important that I can even begin to imagine that I have to get inked onto my skin. When I see people with tattoos, I say. What, is it really that cool to get a small lizzard on your foot? To have a good/bad angel wing on each side of your back? To get a design on your lower back?

That tells me a lot about a person. If they were from a village in africa and had a tribal tattoo, I'd say cool I understand. Its your culture.

When you have barbed wire around your bicept,...yeah...o-kayyyy...

 

[BryanP]

Anyone found with those are also considered "tramps", at least, in my generation.

Tramp stamp isn't some localized term.

 

[turbo]

That tells me a lot about a person. If they were from a village in africa and had a tribal tattoo, I'd say cool I understand. Its your culture.

When you have barbed wire around your bicept,...yeah...o-kayyyy...

There aren't that many "t"s in bicep, Cy. I had a friend in college from Kenya who had tribal scarring on his forehead. It was ritual scarification, healed open with ash from a cow-dung fire. Bernie was a cool guy and I liked him a lot. His parents were officials in the government of Kenya, and some of his brothers had gotten back to the tribal ceremonies and some had not.

I have been riding Harleys for over 30 years, and have never felt the urge to get inked, but I never disrespect any of my friends who make that choice, nor their ladies. Getting inked is a personal decision. I have a close friend who is the best friend of the biggest inker in Pittsburgh, and his entire upper body is covered with with dragons, unicorns, Hindu demons, etc, etc. I love him without reserve, and I cannot possibly accept some gender-based standard that brands females with tattoos as inferior.

 

[Cyrus]

There aren't that many "t"s in bicep, Cy. I had a friend in college from Kenya who had tribal scarring on his forehead. It was ritual scarification, healed open with ash from a cow-dung fire. Bernie was a cool guy and I liked him a lot. His parents were officials in the government of Kenya, and some of his brothers had gotten back to the tribal ceremonies and some had not.

I have been riding Harleys for over 30 years, and have never felt the urge to get inked, but I never disrespect any of my friends who make that choice, nor their ladies. Getting inked is a personal decision. I have a close friend who is the best friend of the biggest inker in Pittsburgh, and his entire upper body is covered with with dragons, unicorns, Hindu demons, etc, etc. I love him without reserve, and I cannot possibly accept some gender-based standard that brands females with tattoos as inferior.

I don't either. I know lots of very, very, very, nice people who have ink. I personally find it to be stupid though. Its like those goth kids with the ear spacers. Have you seen that lately? Its supposed to be like those african lip rings. You can fit a big magic marker through their ear lobes! These kids ARE dumb, and crying for attention. Look at me, I can stick three fingers through my ears! Ahhhh, so that's why its in one ear, out the other with you.

LADIES, HES SINGLE!

 

[Mike H]

I dated a girl with serious (but not terribly extensive or always-visible) body art once. We actually got along really well, had a lot of fun, and it ended amicably (we were young and not terribly serious). She was an engineering student, I was a natural sciences student, so we also could bond over problem sets and crazy stuff going on in labs.

Of course, it didn't hurt that she otherwise looked like Rogue from the X-Men comics (not the movie).

 

[mcknia07]

Eww, Cy, that pic is kind of nasty, no offense to him, but EWWW, and no thanks! LOL

 

[Moonbear]

I also dislike blonde women.

Oops, did I accidentally ban Cyrus?

The thing with tattoos is that a person getting one does so to send some sort of message, either in the theme of the tattoo or in just the process of getting one. Often the message is either immature rebellion or caving to peer pressure, at least that's how I see it. So, those ideas are inconsistent with my views in life, and that is a turn-off. As I said earlier, never say never. Some guy might convince me that his small tattoo has a really specific meaning, and then I might consider the message he's sending is more thoughtful than the people who get tattoos because they're the fad, and it wouldn't be so much of a turn-off. But, when someone has something like Chinese characters as tattoos and can't even remember what they mean, bleck, that tells me he's just stupid.

 

[Evo]

I confirmed with my daughter, they are indeed called "tramp stamps" and are looked down on by her peers.

Hey, if someone wants to get one, that's up to them, but they have to realize that although it may be acceptable in their social circle, there is a negative stigma attached to them in the majority of society, it seems.

 

[GeorginaS]

I suppose I'd never know if these other hallmarks didn't go with them, but I frequently see that lower back tattoo on young women who also wear really low rise pants and tops that don't even come close to meeting the waistline of their pants. So I've been treated to a really good, frequent look at their tattoo, and generally their underwear as well, because that sticks up and/or shows every time they move or bend also.

It's a bit much, in my estimation. Now, when I was younger, I was prone to some pretty interesting fashion choices, but none of them included permanently marking my body.

I'm not a fan of tattoos on men or women.

 

[waht]

I confirmed with my daughter, they are indeed called "tramp stamps" and are looked down on by her peers.

It seems to me that the issue with tattooing (whether you get it or not) has to do with conformity. And to fit in one way or another because of what other people will think of you.

 

[Evo]

It seems to me that the issue with tattooing (whether you get it or not) has to do with conformity. And to fit in one way or another because of what other people will think of you.

Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.

 

[TR345]

If you will not date an intelligent, funny, sweet, and attractive female simply because she has a low profile tattoo, then you might not like girls in general. Also, would you make her wear certain clothes in public as well to enhance your image together. The whole idea seams entirely superficial.

 

[Moonbear]

If you will not date an intelligent, funny, sweet, and attractive female simply because she has a low profile tattoo, then you might not like girls in general. Also, would you make her wear certain clothes in public as well to enhance your image together. The whole idea seams entirely superficial.

Why? If someone doesn't like tattoos or the idea of permanently marring your body with ink, that doesn't mean they don't like women in general, it just means they don't find tattoos attractive.

And, no, people shouldn't make another wear particular clothes in public, but the clothing one chooses also reflects their personality, so if you don't like the way someone dresses, you might not be very compatible. Doesn't mean you couldn't get along as friends, but for dating, you want more compatibility than that. I won't date a guy who wears a baseball cap all the time, or one worn sideways, or pants slouching down to his knees, or dirty ripped t-shirts unless he's only wearing it to do yardwork, or orange plaid pants and purple striped shirts together. Any of those styles tell me something about the image that person wants to portray about themselves, and none of that is compatible with my appraoch to life.

 

[TR345]

Why? If someone doesn't like tattoos or the idea of permanently marring your body with ink, that doesn't mean they don't like women in general, it just means they don't find tattoos attractive.

And, no, people shouldn't make another wear particular clothes in public, but the clothing one chooses also reflects their personality, so if you don't like the way someone dresses, you might not be very compatible. Doesn't mean you couldn't get along as friends, but for dating, you want more compatibility than that. I won't date a guy who wears a baseball cap all the time, or one worn sideways, or pants slouching down to his knees, or dirty ripped t-shirts unless he's only wearing it to do yardwork, or orange plaid pants and purple striped shirts together. Any of those styles tell me something about the image that person wants to portray about themselves, and none of that is compatible with my appraoch to life.

I respect your opinion, but it is the girl who you are supposed to be attractive to. Also, I am saying that if she has a great personality, but the tattoo makes you dislike her, then what is the point of the judgment you would be making about her having a bad personality because of a tattoo. It just doesn't make sense unless you care how strangers will judge her, and you by association which is kind of superficial.

 

[waht]

Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.

I suppose yes for a certain subset of people. People can be insecure if they don't have a tattoo too.

But even if someone is insecure, they might just need a kick start from you to rid of their insecurity, you never know.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.

It seems a rather superficial way of looking at it. I guess the average woman suffers from low self esteem? In order to 'fit in' or 'conform' she wears make up, push up/water/underwire/whatever bras, highheels, fake nails, stockings, pantyhose... I could go on all day. Everyone alters their appearance in some fashion or another. All sorts of people try to get others attention whether it's with a tattoo, make up, or cleavage does it really matter? Does it really automatically point to some 'issue' the person has just because they have a piercing or tattoo any more than it they just like wearing certain types of clothing or doing their makeup in a certain way?

 

[Evo]

I respect your opinion, but it is the girl who you are supposed to be attractive to. Also, I am saying that if she has a great personality, but the tattoo makes you dislike her, then what is the point of the judgment you would be making about her having a bad personality because of a tattoo. It just doesn't make sense unless you care how strangers will judge her, and you by association which is kind of superficial.

That doesn't even make any sense. Why are you supposed to be attracted to someone you aren't interested in?

 

[Evo]

It seems a rather superficial way of looking at it. I guess the average woman suffers from low self esteem? In order to 'fit in' or 'conform' she wears make up, push up/water/underwire/whatever bras, highheels, fake nails, stockings, pantyhose... I could go on all day. Everyone alters their appearance in some fashion or another. All sorts of people try to get others attention whether it's with a tattoo, make up, or cleavage does it really matter? Does it really automatically point to some 'issue' the person has just because they have a piercing or tattoo any more than it they just like wearing certain types of clothing or doing their makeup in a certain way?

I consider people that think they are judged solely by appearance to have issues, yes.

There is a reason why expensive clothing is worth it, better fit, lasts longer. But there are definitely fashion whores.

Wearing a pair of expensive shoes and permanently tatooing shoes onto your feet are definitely two different things. I don't do either.

 

[Cyrus]

If you will not date an intelligent, funny, sweet, and attractive female simply because she has a low profile tattoo, then you might not like girls in general. Also, would you make her wear certain clothes in public as well to enhance your image together. The whole idea seams entirely superficial.

Errr, isn't that the point. They ARENT attractive with a tattoo.

 

[Cyrus]

It seems a rather superficial way of looking at it. I guess the average woman suffers from low self esteem? In order to 'fit in' or 'conform' she wears make up, push up/water/underwire/whatever bras, highheels, fake nails, stockings, pantyhose... I could go on all day. Everyone alters their appearance in some fashion or another. All sorts of people try to get others attention whether it's with a tattoo, make up, or cleavage does it really matter? Does it really automatically point to some 'issue' the person has just because they have a piercing or tattoo any more than it they just like wearing certain types of clothing or doing their makeup in a certain way?

Because of the severity of what they are doing, IMO YES.

Women who get tit jobs also have issues, for instance.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I consider people that think they are judged solely by appearance to have issues, yes.

There is a reason why expensive clothing is worth it, better fit, lasts longer. But there are definitely fashion whores.

Wearing a pair of expensive shoes and permanently tatooing shoes onto your feet are definitely two different things. I don't do either.

My point was (sorry that I didn't convey it well) that maybe, since everyone alters their appearance in various ways to 'conform' or 'fit in', getting a tattoo isn't necessarily any more a sign of having esteem issues.

Because of the severity of what they are doing, IMO YES.

Women who get tit jobs also have issues, for instance.

So a one time superficial body modification is somehow more severe than years of going through a daily ritual of altering ones appearance? A ritual that is often tedious and by some even considered torturous (high heels/ underwires/ waxing)?

 

[Evo]

My point was (sorry that I didn't convey it well) that maybe, since everyone alters their appearance in various ways to 'conform' or 'fit in', getting a tattoo isn't necessarily any more a sign of having esteem issues.


So a one time superficial body modification is somehow more severe than years of going through a daily ritual of altering ones appearance? A ritual that is often tedious and by some even considered torturous (high heels/ underwires/ waxing)?

It boils down to what is socially acceptable in your "world". In the professional world I live in, it is considered part of grooming for a woman to wear *subtle* makeup. You don't go to the office with purple sparkly eyeshadow or black lipstick.

If you go back and read what *I* said,

Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different

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If you are a slave to fashion trends, then yes, it's a self esteem issue. You can dress nicely without drawing undue attention to yourself.

 

[TR345]

I guess I meant physically attractive, if you are not attracted in a sophisticated way to them because of the tattoo, then that is another story, but even then, it would not be very sophisticated of a person to be that shallow in their reasoning.

 

[Cyrus]

I guess I meant physically attractive, if you are not attracted in a sophisticated way to them because of the tattoo, then that is another story, but even then, it would not be very sophisticated of a person to be that shallow in their reasoning.

That makes no sense. I don't like fat women. Does that mean I am not sophisticated in my reasoning? It means I have my own taste.

I like tall brunettes with a nice face and nice skin. Nice skin is VERY attractive. That means NO F'in tattoos on her.

 

[Cyrus]

So a one time superficial body modification is somehow more severe than years of going through a daily ritual of altering ones appearance? A ritual that is often tedious and by some even considered torturous (high heels/ underwires/ waxing)?

"torturous?" ...no.

How does one alter their appearance by taking a shower, wearing cologne, and combing their hair.

 

[TR345]

That makes no sense. I don't like fat women. Does that mean I am not sophisticated in my reasoning? It means I have my own taste.

I like tall brunettes with a nice face and nice skin. Nice skin is VERY attractive. That means NO F'in tattoos on her.

If you were attracted to fat women in a physical way, but you thought that being fat makes them stupid so didn't like them automatically, then sort of, but that is another bag of potato chips.

 

[Cyrus]

If you were attracted to fat women in a physical way, but you thought that being fat makes them stupid so didn't like them automatically, then sort of, but that is another bag of potato chips.

WHY!? I can be attracted to a nice tall brunette with a tattoo, and I might not get along with her. Thats no different than me rejecting her becasue of her tattoo!

Selection is selection. PERIOD. If you don't satisfy at least x,y,z you can take a hike.

 

[TR345]

WHY!? I can be attracted to a nice tall brunette with a tattoo, and I might not get along with her. Thats no different than me rejecting her becasue of her tattoo!

Selection is selection. PERIOD. If you don't satisfy at least x,y,z you can take a hike.

Right, but then that would make it neither a sophisticated reason nor a physical attraction reason which doesn't make sense to me unless it is for superficial reasons.

 

[TR345]

Maybe you can have any women you want, and so you can search the world for a perfectly fine one that has no blemishes or whatever, so if that is the case then that is cool, but if you are turning down who would be your best choice if she didn't have a blemish, then that is different.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

If you go back and read what *I* said,

Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different

You censor yourself...

atooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.

And my point of contention was with regard to the necessity of there being some 'issue' with the person with a tattoo. I'm sure we can just agree to disagree but really I've seen no evidence that people with tattoos all have, or are even just more likely to have, issues.

How does one alter their appearance by taking a shower, wearing cologne, and combing their hair.

I was more referring to women since they, on average, are the best example of someone going to lengths to alter their appearance for acceptance in society at large. But men do it too. We comb our hair, wear certain clothes, shave, trim ect..
I'd just like to know how getting a tattoo is so much more of an indelible mark upon a person's psyche than all of the little things they do on a daily basis to maintain a certain appearance? Especially with regard to women. Even just sitting in front of a mirror to do make-up every day has to have a greater psychological effect on someone than a tattoo that they probably don't even think about most of the time.