Write Vector Expression in n-t and x-y coordinates of Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around writing the vector expression for the acceleration of the mass center of a simple pendulum in both normal-tangential (n-t) and Cartesian (x-y) coordinates at a specific angle and angular velocities.

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  • Participants discuss calculating the tangential and normal components of acceleration and their projections onto the x and y axes. Some participants express difficulty in converting these components into Cartesian coordinates.

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There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the n-t and x-y components, with suggestions to express the unit vectors in terms of Cartesian coordinates. Some participants have provided calculations for the components, while others are exploring different approaches to resolve discrepancies in their results.

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Participants note the challenge of finding the velocity components in Cartesian coordinates and the potential for confusion regarding the signs and angles used in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Write the vector expression for the acceleration a of the mass center G of the simple pendulum in both n-t and x-y coordinates for the instant when θ = 66° if θ'= 2.22 rad/sec and θ"= 4.475 rad/sec2

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Homework Equations


an = v2/r = rθ2 = vθ'

at = v' = rθ'


The Attempt at a Solution



I've managed to calculate en and et correctly

at = (4.2 ft)(4.475 rad/sec2) = 18.795 ft/sec2

at = 18.795ft/sec2

For an I calculated velocity first:

v = rθ' = (4.2ft)(2.22 rad/sec)
v = 9.324 ft/sec

Hence an = (9.324 ft/sec)(2.22 rad/sec)
an = 20.69928 ft/sec2

Unfortunately, I'm now having difficulty with finding the velocity in terms of i and j.

I had thought that I could use geometry to do it:

atcos(90-66) = -17.77 i
atsin(90-66) = 7.644 j

But the system says it's wrong. Help is greatly appreciated.
 

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Why don't you try to express en and et in terms of ex and ey ? Doing that, you can find the total acceleration, a = an + an , in terms of its projections on x and y axis.* e i is the unit vector in the direction of the subscript "i".
 
Northbysouth said:

Homework Statement


Write the vector expression for the acceleration a of the mass center G of the simple pendulum in both n-t and x-y coordinates for the instant when θ = 66° if θ'= 2.22 rad/sec and θ"= 4.475 rad/sec2

I have attached an image of the question.

Homework Equations


an = v2/r = rθ2 = vθ'

at = v' = rθ'

The Attempt at a Solution



I've managed to calculate en and et correctly

at = (4.2 ft)(4.475 rad/sec2) = 18.795 ft/sec2

at = 18.795ft/sec2

For an I calculated velocity first:

v = rθ' = (4.2ft)(2.22 rad/sec)
v = 9.324 ft/sec

Hence an = (9.324 ft/sec)(2.22 rad/sec)
an = 20.69928 ft/sec2

Unfortunately, I'm now having difficulty with finding the velocity in terms of i and j.

I had thought that I could use geometry to do it:

atcos(90-66) = -17.77 i
atsin(90-66) = 7.644 j

But the system says it's wrong. Help is greatly appreciated.
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Both n and t components contribute to each of the i and j components.
 
@SammyS: You were right. To find the i component I did the following:

-atcos(24) -ancos(66) = -25.589i

For j:

atsin(24) - ansin(66) = -11.265 j

Thanks everyone.
 

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