X and y components of polar unit vectors.

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The discussion revolves around finding the x- and y-components of the polar unit vectors \(\hat{r}\) and \(\hat{\theta}\) at specific angles (180°, 45°, and 215°). Participants are exploring the relationships between these components in the context of polar coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of \(\hat{r}\) components for given angles and express uncertainty about deriving the components for \(\hat{\theta}\). Some seek clarification on the definition and calculation methods for \(\hat{\theta}\).

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the calculations for \(\hat{r}\) at 180°, while others are attempting to understand how to derive the components for \(\hat{\theta}\). There is an ongoing exchange of ideas regarding the angle addition identity and its application to find the components.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that they need to derive the components based on the definitions of the unit vectors and the properties of trigonometric functions. There is a noted lack of consensus on the approach to finding \(\hat{\theta}\) components, with some participants requesting examples for clarity.

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Homework Statement


What are the x- and y-components of the polar unit vectors [itex]\hat{r}[/itex] and [itex]\hat{\theta}[/itex] when
a. [itex]\theta[/itex] = 180°
b. [itex]\theta[/itex] = 45°
c. [itex]\theta[/itex] = 215°

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The Attempt at a Solution


Please check if I'm correct, i'll just show my answer for a since the process is the same for a, b and c

for a.

[itex]\hat{r_{x}}[/itex] = r cos [itex]\theta[/itex]
[itex]\hat{r_{x}}[/itex] = 1 cos 180°
[itex]\hat{r_{x}}[/itex] = -1

[itex]\hat{r_{y}}[/itex] = r sin [itex]\theta[/itex]
[itex]\hat{r_{y}}[/itex] = 1 sin 180°
[itex]\hat{r_{y}}[/itex] = 0

in terms of theta... i don't have any idea how... please help
 
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That's exactly right. If you imagine a unit circle, at 180 degrees, you're on the opposite side of the circle from 0 degrees. x = -1, y = 0.
 
tjackson3 said:
That's exactly right. If you imagine a unit circle, at 180 degrees, you're on the opposite side of the circle from 0 degrees. x = -1, y = 0.

What about theta?? who could I find its x and y component?
 
Can someone help me how to find [itex]\hat{\theta}[/itex]? I don't know how. thanks
 
jhosamelly said:
Can someone help me how to find [itex]\hat{\theta}[/itex]? I don't know how. thanks
Do you not have a definition of the unit vector [itex]\hat{\theta}\,?[/itex]

The unit vector [itex]\hat{\theta}[/itex] lies in the xy-plane and is 90° counter-clockwise from [itex]\hat{r}\,.[/itex]
 
SammyS said:
Do you not have a definition of the unit vector [itex]\hat{\theta}\,?[/itex]

The unit vector [itex]\hat{\theta}[/itex] lies in the xy-plane and is 90° counter-clockwise from [itex]\hat{r}\,.[/itex]

I didn't really get what you said. sorry. can you show me an example on how to get x and y component for a then i'll do it for b and c. thanks. much appreciated.
 
jhosamelly said:
I didn't really get what you said. sorry. can you show me an example on how to get x and y component for a then i'll do it for b and c. thanks. much appreciated.
Well, if [itex](\hat{r})_x=\cos(\theta)\,,\text{ then }(\hat{\theta})_x=\cos(\theta+90^\circ)\,.[/itex] ... etc.

Use the angle addition identity to simplify cos(θ+90°) .
 
SammyS said:
Well, if [itex](\hat{r})_x=\cos(\theta)\,,\text{ then }(\hat{\theta})_x=\cos(\theta+90^\circ)\,.[/itex] ... etc.

Use the angle addition identity to simplify cos(θ+90°) .

so for a


[itex](\hat{\theta})_x=cos(180+90)[/itex]
[itex](\hat{\theta})_x=cos(270)[/itex]
[itex](\hat{\theta})_x= 0[/itex]

then

[itex](\hat{\theta})_y=sin (180+90)[/itex]
[itex](\hat{\theta})_y=sin (270)[/itex]
[itex](\hat{\theta})_y= -1[/itex]

am i correct?
 
Yes. That's correct.
 

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