Exploring the y,y'-Domain: What are the Implications?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the Euler-Lagrange equations and their relation to the differential equation y=f(x)y'. It is noted that most curves on the y,y'-plane do not correspond to a curve y(x), leading to the consideration of the domain further. The question of why y and y' are independent variables is raised, and it is suggested that the domain may be referred to as the phase space rather than the frequency domain. The connection between the solution of y=f(x)y' and the frequency is also mentioned.
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In the Euler-Lagrange equations y and y' are independent variables, while for a given curve y(x), they are related by the differential equation y=f(x)y'. If you draw arbitrary curves on the y,y'-plane, it is immediately clear that most curves do not correspond to a curve y(x), is it fruitful to consider this domain further?
Why are y and y' independent variables? It looks like the y,y'-domain has a different name, perhaps the frequency domain?
 
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JanEnClaesen said:
It looks like the y,y'-domain has a different name, perhaps the frequency domain?
It's called phase space. Frequency domain is a different beast. Apply a Fourier transform to ##y(t)## you'll get ##\hat y(\omega)##. (Note well: nomenclature varies!)
 
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Frequency domain occurred to me because the solution of y=f(x)y' is y=exp(int(f(x))), the frequency is also an argument of an exponential function. Why are y and y' independent variables?
 

What is the y,y'-domain?

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