Yield stress vs critical load stress

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of yield stress and critical load stress in the context of Euler's theory of buckling, particularly as it applies to beams and long columns. Participants explore the definitions and relationships between these two types of stress, questioning their differences and implications in structural mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether yield stress refers to the stress at which a beam begins to deform plastically and expresses confusion about why yield stress should be smaller than critical stress.
  • Another participant asserts that, according to their understanding, yield stress is indeed smaller than critical stress, prompting a request for clarification.
  • A later reply states that Euler buckling applies to long columns where the critical buckling stress is less than the yield stress, suggesting a different perspective on the relationship between these stresses.
  • There is a challenge regarding whether the critical buckling stress is always less than the yield stress for long columns, indicating a potential disagreement on this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between yield stress and critical stress, with some asserting that yield stress is smaller while others suggest that critical stress can be less than yield stress in certain contexts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive relationship between these two stresses.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully clarified the assumptions underlying their statements, and the definitions of yield stress and critical stress may vary based on context. There is also ambiguity regarding the applicability of Euler's theory to different structural scenarios.

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Homework Statement


In Euler's theory , it's stated that the critical stress of beam is always larger than the yield stress of beam ...I don't really undertstand the differnce between them . Critical stress is defined as the stress that the mximum stress applied before the beam starts to buckle...

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The Attempt at a Solution


Does the yield stress here means the stress which the beam start to deform plastically ?
Why shouldn't the yield stress is smaller than the critical stress ?

When object is subjected to stress , the beam will deform plastically before it starts to bend and break ... So , i think that yield stress is smaller than the critical stress [/B]
 
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fonseh said:

Homework Statement


In Euler's theory , it's stated that the critical stress of beam is always larger than the yield stress of beam ...ISo , i think that yield stress is smaller than the critical stress
Who told you that?
 
PhanthomJay said:
Who told you that?
it's based on my understanding , correct me if I'm wrong
 
Euler buckling applies to long columns where the critical buckling stress is less than the yield stress.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Euler buckling applies to long columns where the critical buckling stress is less than the yield stress.
Do you mean for long column , the critical buckling stress is always less than the yield stress?
 

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