Finding the maximum load of a bar from the yield stress

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum load a simply supported bar can withstand based on its yield stress and dimensions. Participants explore the relationship between applied load, bending moment, and yield stress, with a focus on the implications of support types on maximum load capacity.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a scenario involving a bar with specific dimensions and an applied load, seeking to calculate the maximum load based on yield stress.
  • Another participant questions the type of support for the bar, noting that it affects the maximum bending moment and, consequently, the maximum load.
  • A later reply clarifies that the bar is simply supported at both ends, which influences the calculation of the maximum bending moment.
  • Participants discuss the formula for maximum bending moment for a simply supported beam, suggesting that it is given by Mmax = PL/4, where P is the applied load and L is the length of the beam.
  • There is a request for clarification on how to use the yield stress to determine the maximum load, indicating a need for further guidance on the relationship between stress and load.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of support type in determining maximum load and the use of specific formulas for simply supported beams. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the calculation steps and the application of yield stress to find the maximum load.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in calculating the maximum load from yield stress, and there are dependencies on the definitions of stress and bending moment that remain unclarified.

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Homework Statement


I have a bar, 500mm long (0.05m) 10mm wide (0.01m) and 3mm deep (0.003 m)

The bat has a load applied in the centre of 30n

I know the maximum yield stress is 150 mpa 150x10^6

How do I calculate the maximum load the bar can take?


Homework Equations



I used stress = m y / I



The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the bending moment to be 3.75 at 250mm (.25m) using a shear bending diagram,

I then reversed the equation above to get:

150x10^6 = 0.0015m/2.25x10^-11

Which gives m as : (150x10^6 x 2.25x10^-11) / 0.0015

M = 2.25

I know the bending moment is at .25 m

So divide 2.25 / .25

I get 9


The answer can't be 9n as the question uses 30n

Can someone please show me how to solve this?.

Thanks in advance x
 
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How is the bar supported? Are the two ends simply supported or fixed, etc?

The type of supports affect the maximum bending moment, which will affect your maximum load.
 
Sorry, the bar is simply supported at either end
 
For a simply supported beam, the maximum bending moment occurs at the center and is given by

Mmax =PL/4 where P= applied load and L= length of beam
 
So I can then use this to find the max load from the yield stress??
If so, how?
 
Lap9387 said:
So I can then use this to find the max load from the yield stress??
If so, how?


Use your first equation and rearrange for M.

σ = My/I
 
thank you for this...
 

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