Zip line cable used to pull supplies up mtn....

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The discussion focuses on the feasibility of using a zip line cable system to pull supplies up a mountain with a 1,000 lb load over a 1,800-foot horizontal distance and a 1,000-foot elevation change. Participants emphasize the need for a diagram to assist in calculations regarding cable length, sag, and the strength of the pull rope. The minimum strength of the supporting cable is determined primarily by its vertical load capacity, while sag and tension must be managed to prevent the load from dragging on the ground. Additionally, there is a requirement for a winch capable of safely lifting 1,000 lbs with a drum that can accommodate 2,000 feet of 1/4" cable. The conversation highlights the importance of careful planning and calculations to ensure safety and functionality.
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If even feasible, what minimum type/size cable reqd with trolly attached that would have maximum 1000 lb load suspended from it, that would be pulled up, from atop, by second separate free line for the following location; 1,000 foot elevation change to where base anchor point was, horizontally, 1,800 feet distant, looking straight down over it? Before cable sag and stretch is taken into account, the length of cable appears to need to be about 2,060 feet long. Also, what minimum strength pull rope would be required for 1000 lbs, if trolley was typical, friction-wise? Also, any clue to what minimum size motor or engine would likely be reqd on drum to pull 1000 lbs via that free line? Thank you, in advance, for any insights.
 
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You should start by drawing a diagram of this. Then we can help you do the calculations. Also, the pull rope needs to be connected below, not above, to avoid rubbing against or tangling with the suspension cable and trolley.
 
OK, rough sketch here...
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Great start.

Now, the minimum strength required by a cable supporting an object comes from when the cable is vertical. Then it only supports their combined weights. The closer to horizontal or straight you try to make the cable (the less it sags), the higher the force. So: how much can it sag without hitting the ground?
 
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So: how much can it sag without hitting the ground?

Let's assume as little slack or sag as reasonably achievable, so that the restraining posts at each end are as short as possible, but still high enough to have load off the ground, and not dragging, at either or both ends. When I say 'reasonably achievable', the best I'll be able to do, after top of cable secured, is have a pickup truck winch at bottom end slowly pull and make cable more taut before securing it.

I won't be able to figure out, yet, just how high those posts will need to be. I've got to take into account the height of load and connecting straps up to the trolley at cable (guessing now about 6-8') and also how much we figure out that whatever chosen cable will likely be sagging below a straight line.
 
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I'm also needing to find smallest/cheapest electric or small engine powered winch that'll safely lift, at least, 1000lbs, and has a drum that'll accept 2,000' of 1/4" cable.
 
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