Infinite dimensional counterexample

In summary, the conversation discusses the direct sum of a subspace and its orthogonal complement in a finite dimensional vector space. It is questioned whether this result still holds in the case of an infinite dimensional vector space, and a counterexample is given in the form of the space l^2(N). The speaker also provides a simpler example in the case of continuous functions on [0,1] to demonstrate the failure of the properties in this context.
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Homework Statement



Let V be a finite dimensional vector space and let W be a subspace of V.
1. Then V is the direct sum of W and W' where W' denotes the orthogonal complement of W.
2. Also, (W')' = W, i.e the orthogonal complement of the orthgonal complement of W is
again W.

My question is, what happens if we drop the condition that V is finite dimensional, would
the results would be still valid? what happens with condition 1 and 2??
 
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Part of the problem here is that "orthogonality" depends on the specific inner product and there is no "natural" inner product on infinite dimensional vector spaces. Are you assuming a specific inner product and, if so, what?
 
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Sorry, I accidentally clicked on report.

I read somewhere in the web that l^2(N) is such counterexample where l^2(N) is the set of all sequences of real numbers (x_1, x_2,...) such that
sum( x_i^2 , i=1 to infinity) < infinity.

But I don't know which subspace of l^2(N) should I consider to find where the properties fail.
 
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I'll give you a simpler example. Let V be the space of all continuous functions on [0,1]. Define the inner product <f,g> to be the integral of f*g over [0,1]. Let W be the subspace of all functions such that f(0)=0. The only element of W' is f=0. V obviously isn't equal to the direct sum of W and W'. They don't even span V.
 
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In the case of I^2(N), take W to be the subspace of all sequences with only a finite number of elements nonzero. Both of these examples have a common elements. You have a proper subspace W that is dense in V.
 

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An infinite dimensional counterexample is a mathematical object or scenario that disproves a previously believed theory or statement about infinite dimensional spaces. It shows that the theory or statement does not hold true for all infinite dimensional spaces.

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