Slow Forums: PF Under DDOS Attack

[Dembadon]

Good here, so far!

 

[G01]

Thank you Greg for all of your hard work!

Yes indeed! Thanks Greg!

 

[nismaratwork]

If there's a more thankless job than spending your weekend, trapped by an idioit FedEx guy, fighting with (probably) one punk script-kiddy attacking a genuinely helpful site... I don't know what is.

Thanks Greg... have you gotten ANY sleep?

 

[Isaacsname]

DDOS on PF..? Who would do such an inane thing ?

OTOH, it's a relief to know that's what causing it, I thought it was something I said..

 

[DevilsAvocado]

Smooooth as a smoooothie! :!)

Thanks Greg!

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C:\Windows\system32>tracert physicsforums.com

Tracing route to physicsforums.com [74.86.200.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    51 ms    47 ms    42 ms  xxxxxxxxx.tbcn.telia.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
  3    30 ms    31 ms    31 ms  s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.230]
  4    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  s-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.110]
  5    42 ms    41 ms    42 ms  kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.65.166]
  6   126 ms   127 ms   126 ms  nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.91]
  7   182 ms   182 ms   190 ms  dls-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.130.67]
  8   179 ms   180 ms   181 ms  te3-3.bbr02.eq01.dal01.networklayer.com [213.248.102.174]
  9     *      178 ms   178 ms  po6.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.18.213]
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>time
The current time is: 16:22:45,29



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C:\Windows\system32>tracert physicsforums.com

Tracing route to physicsforums.com [74.86.200.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  xxxxxxxxx.tbcn.telia.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
  3    30 ms    30 ms    31 ms  s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.230]
  4    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  s-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.246.150]
  5    39 ms    39 ms    39 ms  kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.246.109]
  6   341 ms   176 ms   124 ms  nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.247.119]
  7   173 ms   173 ms   231 ms  dls-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.130.65]
  8   170 ms   170 ms   170 ms  te3-3.bbr02.eq01.dal01.networklayer.com [213.248.102.174]
  9   172 ms   172 ms   172 ms  po6.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.18.213]
 10   376 ms   200 ms   180 ms  po2.fcr03.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.118.190]
 11   172 ms   179 ms   171 ms  physicsforums.com [74.86.200.109]

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>time
The current time is: 17:38:59,54



============================================================================================
C:\Windows\system32>tracert physicsforums.com

Tracing route to physicsforums.com [74.86.200.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  xxxxxxxxx.tbcn.telia.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
  3    31 ms    31 ms    40 ms  s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.230]
  4    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  s-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.246.150]
  5    46 ms    39 ms    39 ms  kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.246.109]
  6   124 ms   123 ms   123 ms  nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.247.119]
  7   168 ms   168 ms   168 ms  dls-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.130.67]
  8   164 ms   164 ms   164 ms  te3-3.bbr02.eq01.dal01.networklayer.com [213.248.102.174]
  9   166 ms   166 ms   166 ms  po6.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.18.213]
 10   171 ms   172 ms   171 ms  po2.fcr03.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.118.190]
 11   178 ms   171 ms   172 ms  physicsforums.com [74.86.200.109]

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>time
The current time is: 17:57:13,80


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It was tight at SoftLayer Technologies 66.228.118.190, right...?

 

[ladykrimson]

I am having no problems posting or accessing the boards.

Thank you for all of your hard work! I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say, "We appreciate it tremendously!"

 

[DevilsAvocado]

I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say, "We appreciate it tremendously!"

Yup, count me in!

... I’ve never been suicidal before ... but this was close ... PHEW! :yuck: ()

 

[Lancelot59]

It's working now!

Who would want to DDOS us? We're so nice!

 

[Q_Goest]

Looks good right now. Thanks Greg!

 

[lisab]

Group hug on Greg!

 

[DevilsAvocado]

... I thought it was something I said..

... how do you know it wasn’t??


()

 

[ThomasT]

1:23 PM EST Southeast Florida -- responding ok now. Thanks GB.

 

[ThomasT]

2:00 PM EST -- Been working normally fast for the past half hour.

 

[lurky]

Thank you for your efforts! It's working for me now too!

 

[nismaratwork]

"Mission Accomplished"

We have to reclaim that phrase! With "Winner" going down the toilet after all...

 

[Isaacsname]

... how do you know it wasn’t??


()

"...ulp "

 

[Dickfore]

It's working pretty good these past few hours.

 

[micromass]

All is going well for me. It seems we survived.

Thanks a lot Greg for spending your entire weekends on this!

 

[Char. Limit]

Can we start DDoSing the Creationist Scientologists now?

 

[micromass]

Can we start DDoSing the Creationist Scientologists now?

ROUND 2: PF fights back.

 

[nismaratwork]

Can we start DDoSing the Creationist Scientologists now?

If it were legal...

 

[Char. Limit]

If it were legal...

Was what they did legal? I say that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right" !

 

[nismaratwork]

Was what they did legal? I say that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right" !

Ahhh... sweet reciprocal justice... don't tempt me! :rofl:

 

[DevilsAvocado]

Can we start DDoSing the Creationist Scientologists now?

Yeah, we got to do(s) something. Now they’re saying DOS 6.2 is only a couple of days old, and blessed... I’m worried... they are quickly gathering more "evidence"...

Good to see that Evo has taken the fight with these living dinosaurs!

 

[DevilsAvocado]

"...ulp "

Cool. I just knew it; you are an expert on network layers, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_layer_protocol" !

 

[Fredrik]

Any idea who was behind it?

 

[Char. Limit]

Any idea who was behind it?

Creationist Scientologists

Trust me.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Any idea who was behind it?

Why the past tense. It's still happening :) We'll never know.

 

[waht]

Geez, who the heck would DDOS forums about physics? The last couple of days was nightmare. But now PF loads fine, but with a slight lag.

 

[waht]

Maybe this is related or not but just yesterday the French finance ministry was hit:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-spectacular-cyber-french.html

The French finance ministry has shut down 10,000 computers after a "spectacular" cyber attack from hackers using Internet addresses in China, officials and reports said Monday.

 

[Mentallic]

Maybe this is related or not but just yesterday the French finance ministry was hit:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-spectacular-cyber-french.html

They must've been testing it on us first!

 

[nismaratwork]

Why the past tense. It's still happening :) We'll never know.

We could... you're just too darned moral to take those steps, or to take them by proxy. Respectable that, but... frusterating.


@waht: "spectacular" usually means hundreds of thousands of bots in a network... if that had happened here, it wouldn't have been slow, it would have been inaccessible.

The thing that really pisses me off about DDOS, beyond the increase to the cost of throughput, is that it relies on exploiting random people to use as drones! What the hell is the point of compromising so many computers, then abuse their connection... which also drives prices up.

Botnets of all kinds are therefore hunted extensively, but are by nature elusive... they are a very corrosive force on the net. Sadly, the best ways to attack them, are also illegal and immoral.

 

[Char. Limit]

We could... you're just too darned moral to take those steps, or to take them by proxy. Respectable that, but... frusterating.


@waht: "spectacular" usually means hundreds of thousands of bots in a network... if that had happened here, it wouldn't have been slow, it would have been inaccessible.

The thing that really pisses me off about DDOS, beyond the increase to the cost of throughput, is that it relies on exploiting random people to use as drones! What the hell is the point of compromising so many computers, then abuse their connection... which also drives prices up.

Botnets of all kinds are therefore hunted extensively, but are by nature elusive... they are a very corrosive force on the net. Sadly, the best ways to attack them, are also illegal and immoral.

Hey, botnets can be used for good. I offer up as an example the botnets that DDoS'd Ben Ali's websites in Tunisia, showing internet support for the revolutionaries. Tunisian revolutionaries actually credited Anonymous for helping them.

 

[nismaratwork]

Hey, botnets can be used for good. I offer up as an example the botnets that DDoS'd Ben Ali's websites in Tunisia, showing internet support for the revolutionaries. Tunisian revolutionaries actually credited Anonymous for helping them.

They can subverted for good purposes, but that's still an expoloitation of other computers, and most script kiddies leave computers highly vulnerable as a result of their "exploits".

Hacktivism is good, but not at the expense of bystanders.

 

[Proton Soup]

maybe that kid asking for poisons didn't like the DHMO answer