How Do Position and Momentum Operators Act in Quantum Mechanics?

In summary, the question asks if the results for <x|XP|ψ> and <x|PX|ψ> can be found directly by using the fact that in the { |x> } representation, P acts like h/i d/dx. The solutions to the exercise show that the results can indeed be found directly by making the suggested substitutions.
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Joao Victor
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Yesterday, I was solving an exercise from Cohen-Tannoudji's book - Quantum Mechanics -, but then I got stuck on the second question that the exercise brings. I wonder if you guys could help me, and here is the exercise:

"Using the relation
<x|p> = (2πħ) eipx/ħ, find the expressions <x|XP|ψ> and <x|PX|ψ> in terms of ψ(x). Can these results be found directly by using the fact that in the { |x> } representation, P acts like h/i d/dx ?"

I have found the expressions, but I don't know how to answer the question in bold (I do know that P acts like h/i d/dx in the x position representation, but I haven't figured out how to use this information on the exercise.

Here are my solutions:

<x|XP|ψ> = (<x|X)(P|ψ>) = x <x|P|ψ> = x ∫dp <x|p><p|P|ψ> =
= x ∫dp (2πħ) eipx/ħ p <p|ψ> = x(2πħ) ∫dp eipx/ħpψ(p)
= x ħ/i d/dx (ψ(x))
⇒ <x|XP|ψ> = x ħ/i ψ'(x)

<x|PX|ψ> = ∫dp <x|p><p|PX|ψ> = ∫dp (2πħ) eipx/ħ p <p|X|ψ>
= (2πħ) ∫ eipx/ħp dp ∫dx <p|x><x|X|ψ>
= (2πħ) ∫ eipx/ħp dp ∫dx (2πħ) e-ipx/ħ x ψ(x)
= (2πħ) ∫ dp eipx/ħ iħ pψ'(p)
= -ħ/i (2πħ) ∫dp eipx/ħ pψ'(p)

After some integration by parts...

= ħ/i [ψ(x) + xψ'(x)]
⇒ <x|PX|ψ> = x ħ/i ψ'(x) + ħ/i ψ(x)

I hope you can help me - and I apologize for the horrible format above.


 
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Joao Victor said:
Yesterday, I was solving an exercise from Cohen-Tannoudji's book - Quantum Mechanics -, but then I got stuck on the second question that the exercise brings. I wonder if you guys could help me, and here is the exercise:

"Using the relation
<x|p> = (2πħ) eipx/ħ, find the expressions <x|XP|ψ> and <x|PX|ψ> in terms of ψ(x). Can these results be found directly by using the fact that in the { |x> } representation, P acts like h/i d/dx ?"

I have found the expressions, but I don't know how to answer the question in bold (I do know that P acts like h/i d/dx in the x position representation, but I haven't figured out how to use this information on the exercise.

Here are my solutions:

<x|XP|ψ> = (<x|X)(P|ψ>) = x <x|P|ψ> = x ∫dp <x|p><p|P|ψ> =
= x ∫dp (2πħ) eipx/ħ p <p|ψ> = x(2πħ) ∫dp eipx/ħpψ(p)
= x ħ/i d/dx (ψ(x))
⇒ <x|XP|ψ> = x ħ/i ψ'(x)

<x|PX|ψ> = ∫dp <x|p><p|PX|ψ> = ∫dp (2πħ) eipx/ħ p <p|X|ψ>
= (2πħ) ∫ eipx/ħp dp ∫dx <p|x><x|X|ψ>
= (2πħ) ∫ eipx/ħp dp ∫dx (2πħ) e-ipx/ħ x ψ(x)
= (2πħ) ∫ dp eipx/ħ iħ pψ'(p)
= -ħ/i (2πħ) ∫dp eipx/ħ pψ'(p)

After some integration by parts...

= ħ/i [ψ(x) + xψ'(x)]
⇒ <x|PX|ψ> = x ħ/i ψ'(x) + ħ/i ψ(x)

I hope you can help me - and I apologize for the horrible format above.


It is probably too late for answering your question but what they meant is that your final results are equivalent to making the following substitutions:

[tex] \langle x | XP | \psi \rangle \rightarrow x (\frac{\hbar}{i} \frac{d}{dx} ) \psi(x) [/tex]

and

[tex] \langle x | PX | \psi \rangle \rightarrow (\frac{\hbar}{i} \frac{d}{dx} ) x \psi(x) [/tex]
 

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