Differentiation using the Product Rule

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In summary: This can help catch mistakes more easily.In summary, the conversation discussed differentiating a given function with respect to x and the use of the product rule for differentiation. The chain rule was also employed in the solution, as well as the power rule. The conversation also mentioned the importance of breaking down problems and looking back through calculations to catch errors.
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Homework Statement



Differentiate the following with respect to x;

y = [itex]x^{2}[/itex][itex](x-1)^{1/2}[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution



I have a solution to the problem that I will outline below, but my notes on this are confusing and I'm having trouble applying the method to another question. So if you can see the general rule that is being employed, it would really help me if you could point it out.

Let u = [itex]x^{2}[/itex]

Let v = [itex](x-1)^{1/2}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{du}{dx}= 2x[/itex]

[itex]\frac{dv}{dx}= \frac{1}{2}(x - 1)^{-1/2}[/itex]


(that's all fine so far)

[itex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{x^{2}(x-1)^{-1/2}}{2} + 2x(x-1)^{1/2}[/itex]

I have a simplified answer and I can see how to get there, but what rule does the above employ?

Thanks!
 
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The solution is employing the product rule for differentiation where if you have y=uv

then

dy/dx = v(du/dx_ + u(dv/dx)
 
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rock.freak667 said:
The solution is employing the product rule for differentiation where if you have y=uv

then

dy/dx = v(du/dx_ + u(dv/dx)

Thanks for the response,

so am I correct in thinking that after splitting the function into u and v, the chain rule has been used to find dv/dx, the power rule can be used for du/dx and then from there it's plain sailing with the product rule?

I definitely need more practice on breaking these problems down.
 
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BOAS said:
Thanks for the response,

so am I correct in thinking that after splitting the function into u and v, the chain rule has been used to find dv/dx, the power rule can be used for du/dx and then from there it's plain sailing with the product rule?
Yes. In this case, the chain rule is very simple, since d/dx(x - 1) = 1.
BOAS said:
I definitely need more practice on breaking these problems down.
 
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The problem I need to apply this method to is a little bit more complicated, but I can see how to do it.

Thanks.
 
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Here's another way to look at your problem.

y = x2(x - 1)1/2
dy/dx = x2 * d/dx[(x - 1)1/2] + d/dx(x2) * (x - 1)1/2
= x2 * (1/2)(x - 1)-1/2 * d/dx(x - 1) + 2x * (x - 1)1/2
= x2 * (1/2)(x - 1)-1/2 * 1 + 2x * (x - 1)1/2

At each step along the way, I am postponing taking the derivative of something - this is signified by "d/dx( ... )", which means that I haven't actually taken the derivative of whatever is to its right.
 
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Mark44 said:
Here's another way to look at your problem.

y = x2(x - 1)1/2
dy/dx = x2 * d/dx[(x - 1)1/2] + d/dx(x2) * (x - 1)1/2
= x2 * (1/2)(x - 1)-1/2 * d/dx(x - 1) + 2x * (x - 1)1/2
= x2 * (1/2)(x - 1)-1/2 * 1 + 2x * (x - 1)1/2

At each step along the way, I am postponing taking the derivative of something - this is signified by "d/dx( ... )", which means that I haven't actually taken the derivative of whatever is to its right.

That's an interesting way of looking at it.

I imagine it's much easier to look back through such a calculation and spot any potential error.
 
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Yes, because the work is shown inline rather than several lines up the page.
 

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